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#211 Re: WCG team position

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111th Now!
It would be good to be home & dry by the end of the year but after a decade relegated to page 2 I don’t suppose there is any rush.
At least this time we should be able to stay up without committing a huge proportion of our resources to it. An RAC of 100K should suffice.
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My fleet will be powered off until Monday evening sorry. Am away for weekend
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A lot of my machines aren't even in cases :P Just bare boards running on the bench
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All my cases are open -missing the closing lid- and so are easy to inspect/upgrade/cool
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#215 Re: WCG team position

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I like these.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/streacom ... 59-sr.html

Adds some structure & order but easy access & excellent airflow. They are also a fine bit of design & engineering.

Probably also less of a fire risk than just screwing your mobos to a bit of MDF! Although I got away with that for a long time.
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#216 Re: WCG team position

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I just take side off cases or cut holes in things. Other than the servers which live outside in a shed in the garage, the only systems I have that are enclosed are the 3 in living areas to cut down on noise. I have a stack of side panels lying in a corner :shifty:
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#217 Re: WCG team position

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As reported we are up to 111th place now. :clap: Seemed like another good excuse for a table post :lol: because we love a good table post, dont we ? :think:

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108 localwurst219,976,832
109 IBM Canada 216,629,327
110 IBM Web Innovators & Friends216,204,346
111 The Scottish Boinc Team 214,217,351
112 Something Awful Goons 212,921,907
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Yep the tables are very nice! It looks like we will gain 2 more spots in about 3 days :dance:
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#219 Re: WCG team position

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Bryan wrote: Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:21 pm Yep the tables are very nice! It looks like we will gain 2 more spots in about 3 days :dance:
Thank you, but at this rate of gain I may have to adopt a one table per page of posts rule. Can't have us suffering from table burn out :o
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#220 Re: WCG team position

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1M WCG

1.027M for the day. That's impressive guys :clap: We should do better tomorrow :D
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#221 Re: WCG team position

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110th Now!

We are crunching at such a rate that we should get to 100th before Neumannium Labs get to us. But we still will probably have to tolerate a spell back in 101st. But not for long.
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#222 Re: WCG team position

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Lost almost 3 full days as my main circuit breaker tripped while we were away. Seems you've been doing pretty well without me though :clap:
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#223 Re: WCG team position

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davidBAM wrote: Mon Nov 19, 2018 8:15 pm Lost almost 3 full days as my main circuit breaker tripped while we were away. Seems you've been doing pretty well without me though :clap:
Oh, were you gone? We didn't notice :lol:

Really good to have you back! That'll certainly help the daily output. :dance:

I put an old 750W PSU in the I7 and just brought it back to life. Crunched 1 Collatz just to see that the GPU working. Now back to WCG. 12 more threads for the good guys.

If it weren't for the Sprint we would hit the 101st position in 10 days - hard to imagine gain 9 positions in 10 days. In 14 we would grab the 100th spot. Unfortunately, we need to get the 99th position and that will take 35 days.
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#224 Re: WCG team position

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Are you saying I am a blether :lol: :lol: (don't answer that)
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davidBAM wrote: Mon Nov 19, 2018 10:59 pm Are you saying I am a blether :lol: :lol: (don't answer that)
No, no, I would never say anything like that :twisted:

It is good to have you back though. We are really making fantastic progress now!

Once again, I'll hold down the fort while you guys kick some butt on the Sprint. I have no choice but to continue crunching WCG until about Jan 15. I promised my wife I would pay for the 2nd 2990WX with my WCG pay check. I only had enough for 1/2 of the new machine so I have to keep crunching for a while.
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#226 Re: WCG team position

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Great Pete. I think you are gonna love that new CPU. Be sure to watch the cooling on it. I'd suggest loading HWInfo and running Prime95 for a while. On Hwingo bring up the "SENSORS" and look for the value of Tdie. That is the temperature of the CPU dies. At 68C it will start throttling the CPU due to excessive heat.

On air, you probably won't be able to go above 3.3GHz to stay below the max temp. And I might add you need a really good CPU cooler to do that.
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I found another very fast mover, CharityEngine3, that just passed me. They only have 65M credits but they are adding 7M/day. They will overtake us in 25 days.
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#228 Re: WCG team position

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Aye.
It’s going to be tough at the top.
Speaking of which we are 109th Now!
Another 4 gains in the next week.

Has anybody actually tried spending their Byteballs yet? I’ve still not figured it all out and anyway they don’t seem to be worth much at present. My 8GB are worth about £200 today whereas 6 months ago they’d have been worth 10 times that.
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#229 Re: WCG team position

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I've got most of my machines back on now. CPU for TSBT WCG, GPU for AP Collatz
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#230 Re: WCG team position

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davidBAM wrote: Wed Nov 21, 2018 1:09 am I've got most of my machines back on now. CPU for TSBT WCG, GPU for AP Collatz
It's showing! At the 12 hour mark we have over 600k showing on Bstats. A 1.2M credit day would really be something.

Pete, you got that 2990WX humming yet?
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#231 Re: WCG team position

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Jeez [mention]Cruncher Pete[/mention] , that's unlucky and definitely not funny.
Beginning to think these 2990W boards are hard on PSU's. Maybe AMD are not being quite ' honest ' on exactly how much power these boards take or they really pull power on first start up before settling down ?
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#232 Re: WCG team position

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Crunch away Pete. Doesn't matter whether it's multi million or a single point, everything helps and everyone is welcome. I'd love a couple of new GPU's but can't because I need the cash for a new Kart frame before next year's racing and at least one engine complete rebuild before season starts ( might be both current engines and a new gen engine ) . Unfortunately there's always too many toys we want and never enough cash to get them all. Sometimes life suxs :evil:
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#233 Re: WCG team position

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I am feeling your pain Pete but, as Alez says, we can only do what we can do given all the other little factors such as (a) life, (b) money, (c) time etc
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#234 Re: WCG team position

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The 2990WX machine will pull right at 400W, at the wall, with all threads engaged. That's running it at 3.3G instead of the stock 3.125G. At those numbers the CPU is using 250W. If you overclock above that the power on the CPU package starts climbing very quickly. At 3.8G it supposedly pulls 500W - that's just the CPU! You can't get that kind of speed from the CPU unless you have "special" cooling capability. You can't do it with air or a AIO water cooler.

If you add a GTX 1080Ti the system pulls 700W at the wall.

Be sure you connect 2 8 pin 12V cables to the MB. It needs them especially if you want to run a GPU.

Sorry you are having problems Pete!!
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Cruncher Pete wrote: Wed Nov 21, 2018 7:25 am That's not funny. It was humming along nicely last night. This morning I was hoping to install mint on it. I turned the rig off as I also wanted to move to another spot. Dead as a Dodo, would not restart, no fans, just a hint of green led at the bottom of the board. I reinstalled the 1950X still no cigar. Suspect PSU, checked with my PSU tester and it shows flashing HH on the negative 12V rail. Got no spare, got no money to buy a new one. Tomorrow I will shut down a known working unit and try the PSU that way.
I have an ASUS board that will do that too.
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Was about to bin the board until I removed the jumper on a hunch and saw the board spring back to live. Presto: i7-3770 recommissioned
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#236 Re: WCG team position

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We should move up a position on the next update - probably.
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#237 Re: WCG team position

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Bryan wrote: Thu Nov 22, 2018 5:57 pm We should move up a position on the next update - probably.
Yup, we are 108th Now! :dance:

The LHC sprint doesn’t seem to have cost us too much WCG momentum. The next update will see us up another place. With another to come tomorrow. Astonishing!
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#238 Re: WCG team position

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Megacruncher wrote: Fri Nov 23, 2018 8:42 am
Bryan wrote: Thu Nov 22, 2018 5:57 pm We should move up a position on the next update - probably.
Yup, we are 108th Now! :dance:

The LHC sprint doesn’t seem to have cost us too much WCG momentum. The next update will see us up another place. With another to come tomorrow. Astonishing!
Equally astonishing is that TSBT is in 9th place in the FB marathon for WCG in league 2. 2 points :shock: I can't remember us ever scoring any points in FB for WCG.
We live in interesting times :dance:
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#239 Re: WCG team position

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107th Already! 8-) :dance:

And in more good news a whole bunch of Neumannium Labs members defected to Byteball earlier. This might be just temporary so they can get signed up for cryptodosh. But they’ve been gone long enough to more than half the teams credit in the last 24 hrs. Whatever the case it takes some heat off us.

Happy days!

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#240 Re: WCG team position

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:occasion-balloons: Party time :occasion9:

I invited some friends from XstemeSystems. It is a surprise party for Scole :D They are friends of his too.
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#241 Re: WCG team position

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My birthday was 2 weeks ago, but that's ok. It's a party! :dance:
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#242 Re: WCG team position

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#243 Re: WCG team position

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Happy belated birthday scole!
And welcome to all of the guests.
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+1 to the above. Congrats & welcome
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Wow - I am dropping down the Team rankings with these heavy-hitting guests :clap: :clap: I don't mind AT ALL though :notworthy: :notworthy:

Thanks for helping us out on WCG guys 8-)
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#246 Re: WCG team position

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Woot woot, who doesn't love a good party p14

At this rate [mention]Megacruncher[/mention] will get his 99th place for the team as an early Christmas present.
Big shout for all those helping out :clap:
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#247 Re: WCG team position

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We are now up to 106 th place now. :clap: Another page, another good excuse for a table post :lol:

WCG position
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103 The survivors223,631,565
104 5by14 223,361,988
105 Wisconsin221,443,166
106 The Scottish Boinc Team 221,281,988
107 America (USA) 221,081,676
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and we should take 105th on the next update :text-bravo:
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#249 Re: WCG team position

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With your 1 table/page rule it is a good thing we are at the bottom of this page!

The last 12 hour stats shows we did 924k (1.85M/day). In 24 hours we should be sitting at 103 and it'll be time for another Table :lol:

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And 105th Now! It is.
scopes Birthday guests sure know how to party.
And Neumanniums defectors are still with Byteball. So looking good.

At this rate I reckon that we are in with a chance of making 100th on 30th November, St Andrew’s Day. :dance:
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#251 Re: WCG team position

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According to Bstats the last 12 hours we did 1.014M - WOW!!!! We are only 500k out of 103rd so on tomorrow's 1200 UTC update we'll move up 2 positions.

Get ready for another table Alez :dance:

The guys from XS are really boosting us up. Impressive considering VietOZ isn't up to speed yet!
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[mention]davidBAM[/mention] - you're going to drop another position in the team stats :lol: bluestang from XS is joining us as well!
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Very disappointing. I'll get over it I suppose :violin:

Hmmm, captain of a WCG team on Page 1 of rankings! I just got over it. :dance: And, as you know, we are working on something to give back.
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#254 Re: WCG team position

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BOINC World position based on RAC --> 21 out of 26,438
WOW, amazing guys. :banana-angel: :banana-blonde: :banana-dance: :banana-dreads:
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103rd Now! :clap: :dance:

Just over 2M since the last update. :shock:

And the #100 team is just 6.6M ahead and moving at a mere 50K per day.

Time to switch back from LHC & fully rejoin the WCG ass-kicking!
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:D :D :D

Yup - my machines are gradually finishing off their LHC downloaded WU and reverting back to WCG. TBH, I simply aborted some of the queued Theory jobs because nearly all of them failed (after occupying 24 CPUs for an appreciable amount of time :evil: )
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24 hours from 101st :clap:
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#258 Re: WCG team position

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Guess I'll hold off on the final table before we reach 100 :D :occasion9:
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2.2M yesterday! We'll make 101st on the next update. If our friends stay with us make the top 100 in 48 hours :clap:

XS has sure given us a huge boost! :notworthy: :notworthy:
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:notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:

Thanks very much Guys - hugely appreciated. About to leave the USAF team in our slipstream :shifty:
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