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#211 Re: WCG team position

Unread post by Bryan » Wed Nov 14, 2018 2:49 am

@Megacruncher

Run this command to add OpenCL support. My 1080Ti runs both PG (Cuda) and Collatz (OpenCL)

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sudo apt-get install ocl-icd-libopencl1
STOP/RESTART BOINC and in the messages you should then see Cuda and OpenCL listed.
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#212 Re: WCG team position

Unread post by Bryan » Wed Nov 14, 2018 7:48 am

Megacruncher wrote:
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Your 75% gain claim does seem rather conservative, however.
When I was working we always said to under commit and over deliver :whistle:
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#213 Re: WCG team position

Unread post by davidBAM » Wed Nov 14, 2018 8:30 am

Bryan wrote:
Wed Nov 14, 2018 7:48 am
under commit and over deliver
We could use some politicians with that work ethic
I think this is fool-proof but could you just try it for me please? • There are 10 types of people in the world; those who understand binary, and those who don’t

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#214 Re: WCG team position

Unread post by Alez » Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:56 am

@Megacruncher In terminal

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sudo apt-get install ocl-icd-libopencl1
will probably sort out your issues of only Prime crunching on GPU. Seems this required lib is missing in Mint. I may have mentioned once or twice that Linux was a different beast now a days, especially against the virus that is doze10 :roll:
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#215 Re: WCG team position

Unread post by Bryan » Wed Nov 14, 2018 3:27 pm

Well I won't be retiring 48 threads on Dec 10 it'll be 72! I scored an ASUS Zenith Extreme MB on Amazon this morning so doing a 2nd 2990WX build. :dance: Parts should be here Friday.

So the 3 dual Xeon X5675 machines will be moving on. The 2990WX produces more credits than all 3 of them combined.
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#216 Re: WCG team position

Unread post by davidBAM » Wed Nov 14, 2018 3:29 pm

That mobo is £500 here !!!
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#217 Re: WCG team position

Unread post by Bryan » Wed Nov 14, 2018 3:31 pm

$452 here ... quite a bit cheaper.

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#218 Re: WCG team position

Unread post by Megacruncher » Wed Nov 14, 2018 10:59 pm

Re GPU crunching.
Also SETI GPU Yay! :roll: & GPUGrid work without any further action. I guess they are both CUDA.
Bryan & Alez: thanks for the suggestion, I’ll try it soon.

Btw 112th Now! :dance:
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#219 Re: WCG team position

Unread post by Bryan » Fri Nov 16, 2018 3:48 pm

Looking at the stats - we will be passed by Neumannium Labs before we make the top 100. That means we have to catch the team that is currently 99th and they are ahead by 20M and moving at 400k/day. At our current rate we will catch them and the team in 98th in 42 days. That will put us in position 99.

I'm guessing we will be making some short term detours (ie Sprint) in the next 42 days so we should hit our goal in 50 to 60 days! 10 years ago (2008) TSBT was at 99 so it has been a long time coming! Back to the future :clap:

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#220 Re: WCG team position

Unread post by Megacruncher » Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:57 pm

111th Now!
It would be good to be home & dry by the end of the year but after a decade relegated to page 2 I don’t suppose there is any rush.
At least this time we should be able to stay up without committing a huge proportion of our resources to it. An RAC of 100K should suffice.

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#221 Re: WCG team position

Unread post by davidBAM » Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:34 pm

My fleet will be powered off until Monday evening sorry. Am away for weekend

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#222 Re: WCG team position

Unread post by PeterJ.Shane » Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:00 am

davidBAM wrote:
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My fleet will be powered off until Monday evening sorry. Am away for weekend
That is understandable David and it should save you a bit of Money on Electricity. I must admit I have committed to have a no computer day every wednesday as most of the day I am not home and can't baby sit In theory that is fine, but in reality as soon as i get home I turn on the machines, so there goes my saving.

As regards WCG. TSBT was hoping to get below the 100 mark in standings for some times. I am staying with it for if we run other CPU projects to help AP we are missing out on our target, I think and again I could be wrong that AP is quite safe in being moved to Level two next year. However there has been some talk that we are not going to compete in full next year. It is TSBT's turn. If that is the case, we do not need to support AP any longer for it will get in to Level 2 without much effort. We must of course concentrate on he next and last Sprint to secure the position.
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#223 Re: WCG team position

Unread post by davidBAM » Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:10 am

A lot of my machines aren't even in cases :P Just bare boards running on the bench

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#224 Re: WCG team position

Unread post by PeterJ.Shane » Sat Nov 17, 2018 11:32 am

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A lot of my machines aren't even in cases :P Just bare boards running on the bench
That makes two of us. They are easier to maintain that way and I believe they do get enough circulation of air especially when one big fan covers the lot.
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Unread post by Dirk Broer » Sat Nov 17, 2018 12:11 pm

All my cases are open -missing the closing lid- and so are easy to inspect/upgrade/cool
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#226 Re: WCG team position

Unread post by Megacruncher » Sat Nov 17, 2018 12:31 pm

I like these.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/streacom ... 59-sr.html

Adds some structure & order but easy access & excellent airflow. They are also a fine bit of design & engineering.

Probably also less of a fire risk than just screwing your mobos to a bit of MDF! Although I got away with that for a long time.

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#227 Re: WCG team position

Unread post by Alez » Sat Nov 17, 2018 1:40 pm

I just take side off cases or cut holes in things. Other than the servers which live outside in a shed in the garage, the only systems I have that are enclosed are the 3 in living areas to cut down on noise. I have a stack of side panels lying in a corner :shifty:
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#228 Re: WCG team position

Unread post by Alez » Sat Nov 17, 2018 1:47 pm

As reported we are up to 111th place now. :clap: Seemed like another good excuse for a table post :lol: because we love a good table post, dont we ? :think:

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PositionTeamPoints
108 localwurst219,976,832
109 IBM Canada 216,629,327
110 IBM Web Innovators & Friends216,204,346
111 The Scottish Boinc Team 214,217,351
112 Something Awful Goons 212,921,907

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#229 Re: WCG team position

Unread post by Bryan » Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:21 pm

Yep the tables are very nice! It looks like we will gain 2 more spots in about 3 days :dance:

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#230 Re: WCG team position

Unread post by Alez » Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:28 pm

Bryan wrote:
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Yep the tables are very nice! It looks like we will gain 2 more spots in about 3 days :dance:
Thank you, but at this rate of gain I may have to adopt a one table per page of posts rule. Can't have us suffering from table burn out :o

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#231 Re: WCG team position

Unread post by Bryan » Mon Nov 19, 2018 5:59 am

1M WCG

1.027M for the day. That's impressive guys :clap: We should do better tomorrow :D

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#232 Re: WCG team position

Unread post by Megacruncher » Mon Nov 19, 2018 7:55 pm

110th Now!

We are crunching at such a rate that we should get to 100th before Neumannium Labs get to us. But we still will probably have to tolerate a spell back in 101st. But not for long.

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Unread post by davidBAM » Mon Nov 19, 2018 8:15 pm

Lost almost 3 full days as my main circuit breaker tripped while we were away. Seems you've been doing pretty well without me though :clap:

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Unread post by Bryan » Mon Nov 19, 2018 10:11 pm

davidBAM wrote:
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Lost almost 3 full days as my main circuit breaker tripped while we were away. Seems you've been doing pretty well without me though :clap:
Oh, were you gone? We didn't notice :lol:

Really good to have you back! That'll certainly help the daily output. :dance:

I put an old 750W PSU in the I7 and just brought it back to life. Crunched 1 Collatz just to see that the GPU working. Now back to WCG. 12 more threads for the good guys.

If it weren't for the Sprint we would hit the 101st position in 10 days - hard to imagine gain 9 positions in 10 days. In 14 we would grab the 100th spot. Unfortunately, we need to get the 99th position and that will take 35 days.

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#235 Re: WCG team position

Unread post by davidBAM » Mon Nov 19, 2018 10:59 pm

Are you saying I am a blether :lol: :lol: (don't answer that)

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#236 Re: WCG team position

Unread post by Bryan » Mon Nov 19, 2018 11:15 pm

davidBAM wrote:
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Are you saying I am a blether :lol: :lol: (don't answer that)
No, no, I would never say anything like that :twisted:

It is good to have you back though. We are really making fantastic progress now!

Once again, I'll hold down the fort while you guys kick some butt on the Sprint. I have no choice but to continue crunching WCG until about Jan 15. I promised my wife I would pay for the 2nd 2990WX with my WCG pay check. I only had enough for 1/2 of the new machine so I have to keep crunching for a while.

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#237 Re: WCG team position

Unread post by PeterJ.Shane » Tue Nov 20, 2018 6:43 am

Let me have part of that paycheck. Just christened a brand new Threadripper 2990WX. However, I had to retire a 1950X so in reality I only gained another 32 threads. I can't afford a new mobo for that one for awhile. Come to think of it, I might just have a slight chance, my wife's birthday next week. Honey, I need some money for...Nah, I think I am wasting time trying that.

I still have three machines that are down but since they are only 24 thread ones I had no time to find out why they went to sleep on me.

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#238 Re: WCG team position

Unread post by Bryan » Tue Nov 20, 2018 1:39 pm

Great Pete. I think you are gonna love that new CPU. Be sure to watch the cooling on it. I'd suggest loading HWInfo and running Prime95 for a while. On Hwingo bring up the "SENSORS" and look for the value of Tdie. That is the temperature of the CPU dies. At 68C it will start throttling the CPU due to excessive heat.

On air, you probably won't be able to go above 3.3GHz to stay below the max temp. And I might add you need a really good CPU cooler to do that.
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#239 Re: WCG team position

Unread post by Bryan » Tue Nov 20, 2018 1:57 pm

I found another very fast mover, CharityEngine3, that just passed me. They only have 65M credits but they are adding 7M/day. They will overtake us in 25 days.

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#240 Re: WCG team position

Unread post by Megacruncher » Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:40 pm

Aye.
It’s going to be tough at the top.
Speaking of which we are 109th Now!
Another 4 gains in the next week.

Has anybody actually tried spending their Byteballs yet? I’ve still not figured it all out and anyway they don’t seem to be worth much at present. My 8GB are worth about £200 today whereas 6 months ago they’d have been worth 10 times that.

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