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#1 The Big List

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There are lots of Single-board Computers (SBC), many are in development but some like the Raspberry Pi are very much mainstream selling millions of units per year.

Edit: New list:
http://linuxgizmos.com/ringing-in-2015- ... cker-sbcs/

A handy list:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_si ... _computers

And a very handy comparison:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison ... _computers
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#2 Re: The Big List

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another new board coming out for 30 euro's. A10-OLinuXino-LIME Development Board
http://www.cnx-software.com/2013/11/18/ ... -december/
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#4 Re: The Big List

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"Happiness can be defined as: a geek with non-work related code to write, no distractions and no deadline." - Janos
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Here's another example of SBC

http://linuxgizmos.com/intel-cherry-tra ... es-for-34/

Would it be good for BOINC crucnching?
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I'd buy a board based upon an Intel Pentium J4205, or, even better: an Intel J5005 http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-x5-Z8350-vs-Intel-J4205

-says the man who has two J5005 systems running at home, one on Win10 and one on Linux Mint....

But, if you can get the Z8350 below 100 quid, you might want to give it a try, using either Windows or -if you fancy a challenge- Android/x86...
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Dirk Broer wrote: Fri Dec 28, 2018 4:47 pm I'd buy a board based upon an Intel Pentium J4205, or, even better: an Intel J5005 http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-x5-Z8350-vs-Intel-J4205

-says the man who has two J5005 systems running at home, one on Win10 and one on Linux Mint....

But, if you can get the Z8350 below 100 quid, you might want to give it a try, using either Windows or -if you fancy a challenge- Android/x86...
Any coordinates for one of those? Looks interesting. I would love to bunker one of those at home.

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Here it is

https://androidpctv.com/review-asrock-j ... j4105-itx/
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And you can take the 'Max 8 GB' with a very big grain of salt. My J5005 Linux Mint system runs with 16GB, just because 32 GB is too expensive.
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Dirk Broer wrote: Sat Dec 29, 2018 2:51 am And you can take the 'Max 8 GB' with a very big grain of salt. My J5005 Linux Mint system runs with 16GB, just because 32 GB is too expensive.
Dirk,

Was yours custom build?
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Hal_Bregg wrote: Mon Dec 31, 2018 9:33 am
Dirk Broer wrote: Sat Dec 29, 2018 2:51 am And you can take the 'Max 8 GB' with a very big grain of salt. My J5005 Linux Mint system runs with 16GB, just because 32 GB is too expensive.
Dirk,
Was yours custom build?
The way all my systems are build: I buy a motherboard, a cpu -not even needed in this case-, RAM, look for a SSD or HDD and: presto, new system!
This article helped too (in German) and note the the memory QVL list on https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/J5005-I ... asp#Memory mentions 16GB modules...
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Dirk Broer wrote: Tue Jan 01, 2019 10:12 am
Hal_Bregg wrote: Mon Dec 31, 2018 9:33 am
Dirk Broer wrote: Sat Dec 29, 2018 2:51 am And you can take the 'Max 8 GB' with a very big grain of salt. My J5005 Linux Mint system runs with 16GB, just because 32 GB is too expensive.
Dirk,
Was yours custom build?
The way all my systems are build: I buy a motherboard, a cpu -not even needed in this case-, RAM, look for a SSD or HDD and: presto, new system!
This article helped too (in German) and note the the memory QVL list on https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/J5005-I ... asp#Memory mentions 16GB modules...
Thanks for tips. I will start now looking into scaping my old rig at home and put one of those barbone PC.
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#12 Re: The Big List: a timeline

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A credit card-sized SBC Time Line:
2011-2013: Such modest beginnings....
BoardDateSOCSpeedCPUArchitectureRAM
BeagleBoneOctober 2011Ti Sitara AM3358720 MHzSingle-core 32-bit ARM Cortex-A8ARMv7-A (32-bit)256 MB DDR2
Raspberry Pi 1 BFebruary 2012Broadcom BCM2835700 MHzSingle-core 32-bit ARM11ARMv6Z (32-bit)256/512 MB DDR2
Raspberry Pi 1 AFebruary 2013Broadcom BCM2835700 MHzSingle-core 32-bit ARM11ARMv6Z (32-bit)256 MB DDR2
BeagleBone BlackApril 2013Ti Sitara AM3358/91000 MHzSingle-core 32-bit ARM Cortex-A8ARMv7-A (32-bit)512 MB DDR3
The BeagleBone Black seemed to have superior specs, but as the great Yogi Berra already said "In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is." Raspberry won on both price and performance. In fact their price of $35 broke open the market for credit card-sized SBCs. Texas Instruments were quick to perceive the threat, pricing the 'Black' significantly lower than their original (a.k.a. 'White'), but that did not solve their problems.

2014: Enter the copycats
BoardDateSOCSpeedCPUArchitectureRAM
Banana Pi M1April 2014Allwinner A201000 MHzDual-core 32-bit ARM Cortex-A7ARMv7-A (32-bit)1024 MB DDR3
SolidRun HummingBoard i1exJuly 2014Freescale i.MX61000 MHzSingle-core 32-bit ARM Cortex-A9ARMv7-A (32-bit)512 MB DDR3
SolidRun HummingBoard i2exJuly 2014Freescale i.MX61000 MHzDual-core 32-bit ARM Cortex-A9ARMv7-A (32-bit)1024 MB DDR3
SolidRun HummingBoard i4exJuly 2014Freescale i.MX61000 MHzQuad-core 32-bit ARM Cortex-A9ARMv7-A (32-bit)2048 MB DDR3
Raspberry Pi 1 B+July 2014Broadcom BCM2835700 MHzSingle-core 32-bit ARM11ARMv6Z (32-bit)512 MB DDR2
Banana ProOctober 2014Allwinner A201000 MHzDual-core 32-bit ARM Cortex-A7ARMv7-A (32-bit)1024 MB DDR3
Raspberry Pi 1 A+November 2014Broadcom BCM2835700 MHzSingle-core 32-bit ARM11ARMv6Z (32-bit)512 MB DDR2
Hardkernel Odroid C1December 2014Amlogic S8051500 MHzQuad-core 32-bit ARM Cortex-A5ARMv7-A (32-bit)1024 MB DDR3
Specs-wise Raspberry was fighting a losing battle in 2014. Form factor-wise they were first emulated by SinoVoip's Banana Pi and Lemaker's Banana Pro (but slightly larger), and SolidRun even tried to have the exact same size, only to find out that Raspberry did set new standards here too. Though their quad-core was the absolute performance champion in 2014, price-wise SolidRun showed the arrogance that did cost them their market share. Hardkernel may not have had the superior SOC, it did had the superior speed and dito performance. Plus their C1 model also fitted in some Raspberry B+ casings.

2015: Quad-cores become standard
BoardDateSOCSpeedCPUArchitectureRAM
Raspberry Pi 2 1.1February 2015Broadcom BCM2836900 MHzQuad-core 32-bit ARM Cortex-A7ARMv7-A (32-bit)1024 MB DDR2
Banana Pi M1+April 2015Allwinner A201000 MHzDual-core 32-bit ARM Cortex-A7ARMv7-A (32-bit)1024 MB DDR3
Banana Pi M2April 2015Allwinner A31s1000 MHzQuad-core 32-bit ARM Cortex-A7ARMv7-A (32-bit)1024 MB DDR3
Hardkernel Odroid C1+August 2015Amlogic S8051500 MHzQuad-core 32-bit ARM Cortex-A5ARMv7-A (32-bit)1024 MB DDR3
Banana Pi M3November 2015Allwinner A83t1800 MHzOcta-core 32-bit ARM Cortex-A7ARMv7-A (32-bit)2048 MB DDR3
The Pi 2 was a good step forward, but Raspberry's main strength was (and is) its user base and the abundance of good working hard- and software specially made for it. The Banana's kept expanding the limits for SBC's -but not the support, which was left to the user community (e.g. Armbian).

2016: Enter the 64-bit SBC SOC/CPU
BoardDateSOCSpeedCPUArchitectureRAM
Hardkernel Odroid C2January 2016Amlogic S9051500 MHzQuad-core 64-bit ARM Cortex-A53ARMv8-A/7-A (64/32-bit)2048 MB DDR3
Raspberry Pi 3 BFebruary 2016Broadcom BCM28371200 MHzQuad-core 64-bit ARM Cortex-A53ARMv8-A/7-A (64/32-bit)1024 MB DDR2
Raspberry Pi 2 B 1.2October 2016Broadcom BCM2837900 MHzQuad-core 64-bit ARM Cortex-A53ARMv8-A/7-A (64/32-bit)1024 MB DDR2
Banana Pi M2 UltraNovember 2016Allwinner R40/V40/A40i1500 MHzQuad-core 32-bit ARM Cortex-A7ARMv7-A (32-bit)2048 MB DDR3
Banana Pi M64November 2016Allwinner A641200 MHzQuad-core 64-bit ARM Cortex-A53ARMv8-A/7-A (64/32-bit)2048 MB DDR3
The ARMv8-A/7-A (64/32-bit) is mainly because there are hardly 64-bit ARM OS-es and Aarch64 ARM applications in 2016.

2017: Two more copycats
BoardDateSOCSpeedCPUArchitectureRAM
Asus TinkerBoardApril 2017Rockchip RK32881800 MHzQuad-core 32-bit ARM Cortex-A17ARMv7-A (32-bit)2048 MB DDR3
Banana Pi M2 BerryMay 2017Allwinner V401200 MHzQuad-core 32-bit ARM Cortex-A7ARMv7-A (32-bit)1024 MB DDR3
Both these boards had the exact same dimensions as the Raspberry line between Raspberry Pi Model B+ and Raspberry Pi 3 Model B+. The TinkerBoard looked to be the ultimate quad-core 32-bit SBC.

2018: Fine-tuning the Raspberry design
BoardDateSOCSpeedCPUArchitectureRAM
Raspberry Pi 3 B+March 2018Broadcom BCM2837B01400 MHzQuad-core 64-bit ARM Cortex-A53ARMv8-A/7-A (64/32-bit)1024 MB DDR2
Raspberry Pi 3 A+November 2018Broadcom BCM2837B01400 MHzQuad-core 64-bit ARM Cortex-A53ARMv8-A/7-A (64/32-bit)512 MB DDR2
This is the best Raspberry could do with the original 40 nm based production process.

2019: Setting new standards
BoardDateSOCSpeedCPUArchitectureRAM
Banana Pi M4March 2019Realtek RTD13951400 MHzQuad-core 64-bit ARM Cortex-A53ARMv8-A/7-A (64/32-bit)1024/2048 MB DDR2
Raspberry Pi 4 BJune 2019Broadcom BCM27111500 MHzQuad-core 64-bit ARM Cortex-A72ARMv8-A/7-A (64/32-bit)1024 MB DDR4
Raspberry Pi 4 BJune 2019Broadcom BCM27111500 MHzQuad-core 64-bit ARM Cortex-A72ARMv8-A/7-A (64/32-bit)2048 MB DDR4
Raspberry Pi 4 BJune 2019Broadcom BCM27111500 MHzQuad-core 64-bit ARM Cortex-A72ARMv8-A/7-A (64/32-bit)4096 MB DDR4
BeagleBone AIJune 2019Ti Sitara AM57291500 MHzDual-core 32-bit ARM Cortex-A15ARMv7-A (32-bit)1024 MB DDR3
USB-C was one of the new features here, Raspberry also jumped from using DDR2 to DDR4 RAM and used a 28 nm production process by then.

2020: Bring on the fully capable 64-bit SBCs
BoardDateSOCSpeedCPUArchitectureRAM
Odroid-C4April 2020Amlogic S905X32000 MHzQuad-core 64-bit ARM Cortex-A55ARMv8-2A/7-A (64/32-bit)4096 MB DDR4
Raspberry Pi 4 BMay 2020Broadcom BCM27111500 MHzQuad-core 64-bit ARM Cortex-A72ARMv8-A/7-A (64/32-bit)8196 MB DDR4
Banana Pi M5September 2020Amlogic S905X32000 MHzQuad-core 64-bit ARM Cortex-A55ARMv8-A/7-A (64/32-bit)4096 MB DDR4
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Recent SBC's compared:
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If I were working at Sinovoip (the makers of Banana Pi's), I'd start with the Banana Pi M5 -yesterday.
You can also see why I wrote earlier that I wanted the next Raspberry Pi to have eMMC and/or M.2....
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Those 32-bit boards all come at around $80-90, so roughly twice the money of a 2GB Raspberry Pi 4. Of the 64-bit boards only the Banana Pi M4 can compete with the Raspberry Pi 4, price-wise, but looses on specs. Most interesting board is the BeagleBone AI: would it be possible to engage all CPU, FPU and GPU cores for BOINC?
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Banana Pi has a new M5 now, more or less equal to the Odroid-C4 (Quad-core Amlogic S905X3 SOC @2000 MHz with 4GB LPDDR4,16GB eMMC,4x USB3.0 ,1GbE LAN)
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Compared to the Odroid-C4 it misses the heatsink -so try to fit a 52Pi Ice Tower yourself- and replaces the barrel power connector for a USB-C type.

A very thorough review of the M5 can be found here: https://bret.dk/banana-pi-m5-review/
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Sinovoip, producer of Banana Pi boards, has a new flag ship in their M (for main?) line, perhaps unsurprisingly called the Banana Pi M6 (don't get distracted by the header showing a M4).
The surprise lies more in the chosen SOC: a Senary (Synaptics) VS680, a quad-core Cortex-A73 (@2.1GHz) with a Cortex-M3 real-time security core @ 250 MHz (-so useless for computing), an Imagination PowerVR Series9XE GE9920 GPU, and a NPU for AI up to 6.75 Tops.
The board further has 4GB LPDDR4, 16GB eMMC flash and offers a M.2 E-Key for PCIe or MIPI CSI. There are 4 USB 3.0 ports, 1 GbE ethernet and 1 Micro HDMI-in and 1 Micro HDMI-out. Power Source needs to be PD(?) 5V@3A, administered via USB 3.0 Type-C.
The board looks like this (click to enlarge):
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The VS680/SN3680 seems to be a quite capable SOC -but these specs make me want a SBC with a Qualcomm QCS605 instead.
More info:
https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/11/24 ... processor/
https://linuxgizmos.com/banana-pi-intro ... based-sbc/
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