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#1 RK3288 vs RK3368

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The RK3288 is a tad bit faster on the whole, but has 'only' four A17 cores against the eight A53 cores of the RK3368.

Then again, as Scole has earlier said, you need a 2GB model for the quad RK3288 to be effective, so we'd rather wait for a 4GB model of the octa-core RK3368. We should stay away from 1GB models of the RK3368, that's for sure...

There was a bloke some 30 miles away that offered his 1GB RK3368 for some 85 euro's -we now know why[/url]....and another that wanted to get rid of his -2GB- RK3288 for €40,00...prices sure are dropping! BTW: the 2GB RAM/16GB Flash model of the RK3368 does a little over 90 Euros at Banggood at the moment!

A comparison between the various ARM cores to put the dissapointing (?) performance of the A53 in perspective (after all, the 64-bit A53 should be compared to the 32-bit A7 , both being LITTLE cores that should be combined with big A15/17 or big A57/72 cores)
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a list of RK3368 mini PCs announced so far, some of which already ship:
  • Eny EKB368 TV box with 1 or 2GB RAM, 8 or 16 GB flash, Gigabit Ethernet, Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n/ac and Bluetooth, 3x USB 2.0 host ports, 1x micro USB OTG and HDMI 2.0. Price: TBD
  • Beelink i68 TV box with 1 or 2 GB RAM, 8 GB flash, Fast Ethernet, Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n and Bluetooth, 3x USB 2.0 host ports, 1x micro USB OTG and HDMI 2.0. Price: $71 on GearBest (1GB RAM/8GB flash version)
  • Tronsmart Orion R68 TV box based on Beelink i68 platform with two models:
    • Pro 1 GB RAM, 8 GB flash, Fast Ethernet, Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n and Bluetooth, 3x USB 2.0 host ports, 1x micro USB OTG and HDMI 2.0. Price: $75 on GeekBuying.
    • Meta 2 GB RAM, 16 GB flash, Gigabit Ethernet, Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n/ac and Bluetooth, 3x USB 2.0 host ports, 1x micro USB OTG and HDMI 2.0. Price: $99.99 on GeekBuying.
  • CSA90 TV box with two models:
    • Model 1 1 GB RAM, 8 GB flash, Fast Ethernet, Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n and Bluetooth, 2x USB 2.0 host ports, 1x micro USB OTG and HDMI 2.0 & composite (RCA) output. Price: $70 on Aliexpress.
    • Model 2 2 GB RAM, 16 GB flash, Fast Ethernet, Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n/ac and Bluetooth, 2x USB 2.0 host ports, 1x micro USB OTG, and HDMI 2.0 & composite (RCA) output. Price: $96 on Aliexpress.
  • Rikomagic MK68 TV box with 2 GB RAM, 16 GB flash, Gigabit Ethernet, Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n/ac and Bluetooth, 2x USB 2.0 host ports, 1x micro USB OTG and HDMI 2.0. Price: $111.90 on Aliexpress
  • Zero Devices Z64 TV box apparently based on CSA90 Model, but with Gigabit Ethernet. Price: $125 on Asiapads.
  • Measy B4T TV box with 1 GB RAM, 8 GB flash, Gigabit Ethernet, Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n and Bluetooth, 3x USB 2.0 host ports, and HDMI 2.0. Price: $72.95 on Aliexpress
  • CloudnetGo CR13 Plus TV box with 2 GB RAM, 8 or 16 GB flash, Gigabit Ethernet, Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n/ac and Bluetooth, 3x USB 2.0 host ports, and HDMI 2.0. Price: TBD.
  • CloudnetGo CR18 TV box with 2 GB RAM, 8 or 16 GB flash, Gigabit Ethernet, Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n/ac and Bluetooth, 3x USB 2.0 host ports, and HDMI 2.0 & composite (RCA) outputs. Price: TBD.
  • X6 TV box with 1 GB RAM, 8 GB flash, Fast Ethernet, Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n and Bluetooth (Maybe), 2x USB 2.0 host ports, and HDMI 2.0 & composite (RCA) outputs. Price: $57 on Aliexpress. Note: X6 model was supposed to be for the Chinese market, but the few who bought appear satisfied.
  • Himedia H7 III TV box with 1 GB RAM, 8 GB flash, Fast Ethernet, Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n, 2x USB 2.0 host ports, and HDMI 2.0 & composite (RCA) outputs. Price: $89.89 on Aliexpress. The firmware is likely in Chinese only (TBC).
  • Ugoos UT4 Upcoming RK3368 TV Box with Gigabit Ethernet and 802.11ac WiFi. Listing found on Android Warehouse. Price: TDB
Read more: http://www.cnx-software.com/2015/08/09/ ... z3m29odnHD
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#2 Re: RK3288 vs RK3368

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I'm having a look around at picking up an Cortex-A17 RK3288 TV box, as they seem to be the best of the 32 bit. The 64 bit cortex's look a bit of a disappointment and I would guess all the BOINC apps for droids are 32 bit anyway so doesn't seem like they are worth the money as they seem to have quite a premium except for the A 53's which look like they are no better than an A9 anyway.
Would I be correct ? Any one got one ? Any tips except the usual more memory the better ?
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#3 Re: RK3288 vs RK3368

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The best option -at the moment- seems to be a quad-core ARM Cortex-A17 (or a big.LITTLE octo-core combo with the A17 as 'big') with as much RAM as possible, until the ARM Cortex-A72 comes with enough RAM -and 64-bit ARM apps become common.
Mind you: there are even more ARMv8 models nowadays, but the Cortex-A35 and A32 are meant to be A7 and A5 replacements.
The A32 is even meant to be 32-bit only, but fully supports ARMv8 instruction set and architecture:
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#4 Re: RK3288 vs RK3368

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What system has a octo core big.LITTLE with an A17 as the big and what is the cost? The RK3288 (A17) android TV boxes are down to $65 US on Amazon. Sticks are even cheaper.
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#5 Re: RK3288 vs RK3368

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Mediatek has three SOCs that are big.LITTLE combo's with the 'big' being a Cortex-A17:
  1. MT6595
    1. Alcatel Onetouch D820
    2. Luna Mobile Rox V8
    3. Meizu MX4
  2. MT6595 M
    1. Coolpad Dashen X7
    2. Coolpad Dazen X7
    3. Lenovo Vibe X2-CU
    4. Mogu M7
    5. Siswoo R8 Monster
    6. Zopo ZP999
  3. MT6595 Turbo
    1. ?
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#6 Re: RK3288 vs RK3368

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Thanks, best have a scout for a A17 RK3288 box then. Power bills must be reduced and my RK3188's are getting close to retirement. 1 of the 6 is now refusing to boot past the splash screen ( might just need a reflash but doubt it as they have run 24/7/365 for 3 years or so ) a second appears to have vanished off Bam and will need investigating when my feet are dry again. Upgrade and replacement in order. Same for a few of the normal systems. Need to look at the low power AMD board options as mentioned before.
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#7 Re: RK3288 vs RK3368

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There's quite a few octo core cortex A53 boxes out now, but they all seem to have only 2GB mem, so basically pointless for our purposes. A57's and A72's seem rarer than hens teeth and very expensive.
Seems the A17 is the way to go.
Found a few based on Intel atoms that are dual boot but as setibeta is the only project that supports android on Intel, they would have to be run under win 8.1 or 10 and would in reality be horendously slow I would think. Looking at the antutu scores, most Atom based systems are slower than the A17's anyway.
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