Installing Lubuntu 18.10
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#1 Installing Lubuntu 18.10
With reference to https://tsbt.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=139&t=9319 I thought a new thread was appropriate.
Installation is very easy. Now orienting myself to the different menus.
First problem is that my Preferences and System Tools menus do not have options for Software Updater or Additional Drivers (to replace nouveau ones). I have attached photos of the menus I get
Installation is very easy. Now orienting myself to the different menus.
First problem is that my Preferences and System Tools menus do not have options for Software Updater or Additional Drivers (to replace nouveau ones). I have attached photos of the menus I get
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#2 Re: Installing Lubuntu 18.10
Lubuntu 18.04 comes with Synaptic and Software Updater, both under ‘System Tools’ in the menu or it should. Additional Drivers is a tab on software updater.
Use search for Software Updater. I'll wonder out and check one of my systems to see what I have got.
From screenshot you have installed 18.10 then Software updater is now called Discover Software Center and Synaptic is now muon.
How to Launch
> System Tools ->Muon Package Manager -> Settings-> Configure Software Sources
> System Tools ->Discover Software Center -> Settings -> Ubuntu (Default) -> Settings (Gear icon) -> Software Sources
Lubuntu 18.10 short manual here
Use search for Software Updater. I'll wonder out and check one of my systems to see what I have got.
From screenshot you have installed 18.10 then Software updater is now called Discover Software Center and Synaptic is now muon.
How to Launch
> System Tools ->Muon Package Manager -> Settings-> Configure Software Sources
> System Tools ->Discover Software Center -> Settings -> Ubuntu (Default) -> Settings (Gear icon) -> Software Sources
Lubuntu 18.10 short manual here
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#3 Re: Installing Lubuntu 18.10
Well it is now working
Crunching a single Collatz sieve on nVidia (which was the main aim), with lots of WU for Primegrid on both CPU and GPU.
I never did get an Additional Drivers tab anywhere but instead searched for nVidia in the Muon package manager & rather took a stab in the dark I'm afraid. Not sure I could repeat the process precisely TBH
Primegrid now reports me as having "NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960 (4095MB) driver: 39087" so I've got a slightly newer driver
lspci reports 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GM206 [GeForce GTX 960] (rev a1)
lsmod reports
Crunching a single Collatz sieve on nVidia (which was the main aim), with lots of WU for Primegrid on both CPU and GPU.
I never did get an Additional Drivers tab anywhere but instead searched for nVidia in the Muon package manager & rather took a stab in the dark I'm afraid. Not sure I could repeat the process precisely TBH
Primegrid now reports me as having "NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960 (4095MB) driver: 39087" so I've got a slightly newer driver
lspci reports 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GM206 [GeForce GTX 960] (rev a1)
lsmod reports
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#4 Re: Installing Lubuntu 18.10
After the sprint has finished, I'll be trying it out with an AMD GPU too. If it all works interchangeably, then I'll be a very happy bunny
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#5 Re: Installing Lubuntu 18.10
... presently running a Primegrid PPS Sieve which was the other reason for trying it. All looking good so far
ETA : correction, nVidia always did run PPS Sieve. It was AMD which failed due to missing library on Ubuntu
ETA : correction, nVidia always did run PPS Sieve. It was AMD which failed due to missing library on Ubuntu
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#6 Re: Installing Lubuntu 18.10
When you start running Collatz, don't forget to "optimize" for your card
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#7 Re: Installing Lubuntu 18.10
Yes thanks, is that the only project where GPU optimisation is possible? I'll be changing out the CPU as well so will go through the whole benchmarking thing again.
I am a bit surprised to see that the GTX980 is doing slightly less well (on PPS Sieve) than it was in the crappy old HP motherboard / G3250 @ 3.20GHz / 4Gb Ram (yes 4) / Ubuntu / USB stick boot ... than it is now in a nice Asrock X79 mobo / i7-4960X CPU @ 3.60GHz / 24Gb RAM / Lubuntu / SSD boot
It definitely has a CPU thread all to itself. Different nVidia driver version I suppose. Will monitor as more results are validated
I am a bit surprised to see that the GTX980 is doing slightly less well (on PPS Sieve) than it was in the crappy old HP motherboard / G3250 @ 3.20GHz / 4Gb Ram (yes 4) / Ubuntu / USB stick boot ... than it is now in a nice Asrock X79 mobo / i7-4960X CPU @ 3.60GHz / 24Gb RAM / Lubuntu / SSD boot
It definitely has a CPU thread all to itself. Different nVidia driver version I suppose. Will monitor as more results are validated
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#8 Re: Installing Lubuntu 18.10
That is the only project that comes to mind concerning optimization and I can't think of any that have "optimized" apps available. But I don't do much GPU crunching so that isn't necessarily the definite answer
One thing to watch is the loading on the GPU. On some projects you need to run more than 1 WU at a time. That is usually GPU dependent. Like on PG my 1080Ti runs 60% loading with 1 WU running and it goes to 100% running 2 at a time.
One thing to watch is the loading on the GPU. On some projects you need to run more than 1 WU at a time. That is usually GPU dependent. Like on PG my 1080Ti runs 60% loading with 1 WU running and it goes to 100% running 2 at a time.
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#9 Re: Installing Lubuntu 18.10
I don't actually know how to run more than one WU on the GPU If I've been told before, I've forgotten, sorry.
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#10 Re: Installing Lubuntu 18.10
screendump from psensor - suggests 'graphics' utilisation is pretty high so I assume that is the GPU boincing away
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#11 Re: Installing Lubuntu 18.10
I have graphed 'graphics utilisation' (seems a bit recursive )
It certainly isn't jammed up there at 99-100% so perhaps 2 WU are what is needed
It certainly isn't jammed up there at 99-100% so perhaps 2 WU are what is needed
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#12 Re: Installing Lubuntu 18.10
How you do it is project dependent via an app_config.xml the same as on collatz. The GTX 960 is probably better running single units.
To run two you need to add this to the primegrid project directory and then reread config files. Off the top of my head var/lib/boinc/projects/
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sudo apt-get install gedit
to run it from terminal
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gksudo gedit
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<app_config>
<app>
<name>pps_sr2sieve</name>
<gpu_versions>
<gpu_usage>0.5</gpu_usage>
<cpu_usage>0.5</cpu_usage>
</gpu_versions>
</app>
</app_config>
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#13 Re: Installing Lubuntu 18.10
Well I'll try it on the GTX960 for fun & check the effect on run times - presumably any one task will slow but overall credits will be higher. It sure has changed the shape of the GPU utilisation graph (black line)
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#14 Re: Installing Lubuntu 18.10
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This graph is from Linux Mint with a GTX1080 graphing the GPU utilisation. The step change in the graph (the 1/3rd nearest the right) is using 4 WU on the GPU. The 2/3rds on the left is 3 WU simultaneously. Looks like it could handle 5
Am keeping an eye on temperatures and overall run times
This graph is from Linux Mint with a GTX1080 graphing the GPU utilisation. The step change in the graph (the 1/3rd nearest the right) is using 4 WU on the GPU. The 2/3rds on the left is 3 WU simultaneously. Looks like it could handle 5
Am keeping an eye on temperatures and overall run times
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#15 Re: Installing Lubuntu 18.10
Remember to up the amount of cpu. Whatever you set as cpu is what it uses between all apps on GPU. Go to low and it won't feed the GPU properly.
Also, don't get carried away with loading. The real trick is the times. If you can do one unit in 5 mins then you must be able to do 2 in 10 or less. For 3 , 15 mins or less etc or you are now being inefficient by loading the GPU too much. Also watch the temps on the card as obviously the more you push it the more the temp can rise. It's a balancing act.
Also, don't get carried away with loading. The real trick is the times. If you can do one unit in 5 mins then you must be able to do 2 in 10 or less. For 3 , 15 mins or less etc or you are now being inefficient by loading the GPU too much. Also watch the temps on the card as obviously the more you push it the more the temp can rise. It's a balancing act.
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#16 Re: Installing Lubuntu 18.10
Thanks. Yes, that's what I meant by keeping an eye on temperatures and overall run times
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#17 Re: Installing Lubuntu 18.10
Your graph is very surprising. My 1080Ti runs about 60% load with 1 WU and 100% loading with 2. As Alez says, be sure you have enough CPU reserved to service the GPU. Try suspending the CPU WU and see what happens to your graph. If you don't have enough CPU reserved -or- you are trying to run too many WU it will cause you to lose credits.
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#18 Re: Installing Lubuntu 18.10
I am going to pull the card and try it in another machine. I noticed that even a single WU had been taking 3 times longer than it did originally ... Yes, even before I had changed anything.
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#19 Re: Installing Lubuntu 18.10
Check the temperature on the card. It might be down clocking to protect itself. Either that or it is not getting serviced fast enough through either CPU usage or bandwidth. PPS-Sieve tasks tend to be very similar, so each task should take the same time to run within a few seconds. There are no longer or shorter tasks like some apps.
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