The Scottish Boinc Team

Posted: **Sun Mar 03, 2019 12:25 am**

Hmmmm - problems

Boinctasks started 'not seeing' some boinc instances, even though it could see others on the same physical machine. I decided to close it down, and reboot. Now it won't run at all !! Double-click the icon simply gives me a spinning thing for maybe 10 secs and then nothing. Not sure what do do next - should I maybe remove and re-install?

Posted: **Sun Mar 03, 2019 12:41 am**

The systems are over allocated on CPU resources are they? How many instances do you have? How many WUs on each instance? Number of instances, number of WUs and how busy a system is can affect response time.

Posted: **Sun Mar 03, 2019 12:48 am**

I think all systems bar one were properly allocated on CPU resources. I was in the process of bunkering for a new instance when I got distracted so I think the 1 hour 'pause' on another instance must have timed out.

I have now sorted that with RPC from Linux boincmgr.

Meanwhile I decided to shutdown the Windows laptop running boinctasks and - guess what - it is downloading File 2 of 114 on an update cycle. I'll try again in the morning.

To answer your question, I guess I would have over 50 instances spread over maybe 15 machines. Variable number of cores so a very variable number of WU on each. It isn't a monster laptop BTW, 4Gb RAM, Dell Vostro 1720

Posted: **Sun Mar 03, 2019 1:36 am**

Set the Group on the Computers tab and collapse any group you aren't currently working on or looking at. I set the computer name as the group so I can make sure each instance on that system is working 100%.

Posted: **Sun Mar 03, 2019 1:49 am**

davidBAM wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2019 12:25 am Hmmmm - problems

Boinctasks started 'not seeing' some boinc instances, even though it could see others on the same physical machine. I decided to close it down, and reboot. Now it won't run at all !! Double-click the icon simply gives me a spinning thing for maybe 10 secs and then nothing. Not sure what do do next - should I maybe remove and re-install?

I've seen this before. After you start it and it disappears check in the hidden Icons list. On Win7 that is a little up arrow on the right side of the taskbar. It may be in there.

Posted: **Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:46 am**

Happy to report that all is well this morning - after shutdown, auto-update of 116 files, umpteen reboots.

It is a busy program so is bound to have memory leaks. Must remember to restart occasionally .

Off to see if it has an export utility for all connections

Posted: **Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:59 am**

scole of TSBT wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2019 12:41 am The systems are over allocated on CPU resources are they? How many instances do you have? How many WUs on each instance? Number of instances, number of WUs and how busy a system is can affect response time.

Project website tells me I have 5879 WU in progress. Some will be waiting to run, of course, but I have to be well through them

Posted: **Sun Mar 03, 2019 12:41 pm**

No export utility that I can see. Will have a look to see if I can save the appropriate file.

Setting up on a new syste, would be a bit of a hassle now. Unless 'Find Computer' silently scans all ports? Hmmm - must try that

Posted: **Sun Mar 03, 2019 4:03 pm**

davidBAM wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 2:24 pm Yes, I do that but does it work across them all if I select 10 computers?

No. You can select multiple computers but if you then change the buffer settings in network preferences, it only applies them to one machine. Pity

Posted: **Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:36 pm**

I have got two projects (Einstein and Enigma) on a system from which boinctasks is unable to 'Detach'. If I go onto that system and run boincmgr locally, that too is unable to 'Remove' these projects - the button is greyed-out so it knows it isn't going to be able to remove them.

I've 'Reset' the projects on boincmgr and 'Remove' is still greyed-out

I've checked file permissions and they seem to be the same as other projects.

Baffled

Posted: **Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:59 pm**

Try a manual method. Stop the boinc client, delete the account and master xml files for that project, go to project dir and delete the dir for those projects, restart the boinc client.

Posted: **Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:08 pm**

Will try that thanks

Posted: **Sun Mar 17, 2019 11:18 pm**

scole of TSBT wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:59 pm Try a manual method. Stop the boinc client, delete the account and master xml files for that project, go to project dir and delete the dir for those projects, restart the boinc client.

That did the trick thanks.

I had actually considered doing something like that but was concerned that there might be other mentions to the projects inside other XML file(s)

Posted: **Mon Mar 18, 2019 3:11 am**

You joined those projects through Bam I'll bet.
The Bam manager overrides the local manager of boinc tasks.

Posted: **Sat Apr 06, 2019 4:25 pm**

Anyone happen to know if times reported by BoincTasks for WU deadlines are local time or UTC please?

Posted: **Sat Apr 06, 2019 4:57 pm**

Local time.

Posted: **Sat Apr 06, 2019 5:06 pm**

Bugga !! I got a shedload of Enigma WU which will deadline just before the sprint opens (not that it will necessarily be Enigma of course)

Posted: **Sun Apr 07, 2019 5:11 pm**

Once again, I find boinctasks virtually grinds to a halt when I start bunkering up. 19 machines, most with several client instances and the resulting WU count means it just dies on its feet. I was just spending way too much time using it for health-checking & the 'waiting', 'closing' 'updating' delays were driving me nuts

I've started developing my own variant; runs on Linux but can happily cope with clients of all kinds. Mainly just for monitoring at this time - it reports per-machine regardless of number of clients running and flags up warnings in red if too little or too much is running. The data source is simply /etc/hosts (with some comments added to describe machine capabilities, physical location etc)

R is running, U uploading, S suspended

Hope to extend it as time and inclination permits. Output is pretty spartan as I am simply running in an xterm command prompt as the lowest common denominator & I can run it from any machine I want. I should probably tabulate output for GTK or find away to get around the permissions difficulties running it from a browser

Posted: **Sun Apr 07, 2019 7:30 pm**

scole of TSBT wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2019 1:36 am Set the Group on the Computers tab and collapse any group you aren't currently working on or looking at. I set the computer name as the group so I can make sure each instance on that system is working 100%.

Have you tried this?

Posted: **Sun Apr 07, 2019 7:39 pm**

scole of TSBT wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2019 7:30 pm Have you tried this?

Yes, I think so. All I can make it do is hide or display individual systems though. I was hoping it would support multiple named groups

Posted: **Sun Apr 07, 2019 7:49 pm**

Oh !!! The group is an entry field too. I never twigged to that. That will be handy, thanks.

I'll press ahead anyhow as I am hoping to extend it to cover things which boinctasks can't do (at least what I think it can't do)

Posted: **Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:08 pm**

Limit the number computers in a group to no more than 20. If you collapse the group, I think it helps response time.

Posted: **Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:11 am**

Made groups and still seem to be getting heaps of problems when I bunker up.

Maybe my laptop isn't up to the job? Dell Vostro 1720, Core2 processor P8600, 4Gb RAM, Windows 7 64bit

Posted: **Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:15 pm**

Glad I'm not the only one

Is it possible to have multiple copies of Boinctasks running on the same machine please? If so, I'd simply split my client machines into groups across 2 or more instances of boinctasks

Posted: **Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:22 pm**

scole of TSBT wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:59 pm Try a manual method. Stop the boinc client, delete the account and master xml files for that project, go to project dir and delete the dir for those projects, restart the boinc client.

Sussed it. This did the trick.

Code: Select all

boinccmd --acct_mgr detach

Posted: **Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:26 pm**

BTW, I had 240 boinc clients setup on BoincTasks for the XANSONS work release. No matter how I sliced it, it had my CPU utilization at 100%. Had to shut it down, open it only to check on things, then shut it down again.

Posted: **Thu Apr 18, 2019 4:15 am**

Maybe you guys just have too many systems ......... not that that is a bad thing. Copes with my meager croft fine with a few cores dedicated on an old xeon server. Guess it wasn't designed to run entire server rooms

( I'm just jealous )

Posted: **Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:09 am**

Can't have too many systems (need some shares in electricity companies).

Too many clients and too many WU soon causes problems for me though as I get the impression that boinctasks is keeping microscopic detail on every WU. Admirable motives but overkill in a lot of situations. Seems it creates its own DDOS attack on itself

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