The Scottish Boinc Team

Bryan wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2019 7:22 am There is a penalty to running a VM vs running native

I felt sure there would be & I guess it applies equally - maybe moreso? - to folks running Linux in a VM on a Windows host (which is probably more common). Virtualisation has its uses but I prefer bare-metal if at all practical

Dual boot is the way to go. All but one of my rigs are that way and that's only because it's out general purpose system, server, etc.

To be honest, I haven't run a VM (except where we scammed the Thor challenge) in years. Since discovering BOINC instances and having dual boot machines I haven't had a reason.

Did you know that dual boot works really well

Might need to do that on a couple of machines where I can get a screen / kbd / mouse on them fairly easily. Reasons to run Windows being

• Gerasim for challenges - any other Windows-only projects?
• NFS pays better
• AMD GPU cards run better e.g. on Einstein and Milkyway

Any others please?

Sometimes a new opti app may run faster under Win64,
You can run both AMD and Nvidia GPUs at the same time under windows (I think that's a problem under linux)
I'm sure there are other apps that better under Windows.

I run linux most of the time but it's nice to have Win64 when you need it.

Like Steve, I normally run Linux but there are some projects that are a little quicker under Windows ... most of them Linux is better. There was one of the biggies that until they released new apps about 4 months ago had 30% better payout for Windows. After the new app the differential dropped to 5%. Unfortunately I don't remember which one it is but I challenged Mumps and won. He said he refused to put more than 1/2 his machines on whatever project it is.

I haven't benchmarked it in a number of years, but Yoyo used to pay better on Windows. Muon (dead now) and ECM, which were the 2 highest paying apps, paid 18% better on Windows.

I've never tried Wine but that might be a better alternative than a VM.

Is this one of the projects with a toy server?

I've got completed WU which refuse to upload - the expire in 19hrs. I've tried everything I know in boincmgr

which project?

EDIT: I see this is under the Gerasim folder...It's usually a stable server but it appears to be down right now. Bryan, Mumps and the other server farms must be loading up.

Yeah - I should have sussed that it would be Bryan's fault.

Twasn't me! I was going to put a machine on it this morning but I can't reach it either.

You don't know what a bad day is, I had to do a new Win7 install last night ... pain to the max! Hours of watching hundreds of updates download and install.

Bryan wrote: ↑Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:20 pm You don't know what a bad day is

Yup. Yesterday. Also down to loading a Win7 machine so that I can contribute some Gerasim and AMD GPU for challenges.

Took me about 90mins to suss out that Notepad had called my file remote_hosts.cfg.txt ... I mean WTF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This was after finding the correct (hidden) directory in the first place

Don't anyone ever tell me that Linux is difficult

If you did a WIn7 install on your Xeons there are some updates you DON'T want installed ... if they were you can remove them. These are the Spectre patches and can slow up HT crunching by 30%.

The following KB #
4056892
4056897
4880960
4880970
any of security rollups dated 1/18 or later

You turn off automatic updates and tell it to check but let you determine whether to download them. Once you get to the point it wants to start doing to rollups or the above listed updates then TURN OFF UPDATES entirely.

PS I don't think Gerasim has enough server to handle a Sprint.

Thanks. Does 1/18 mean January 2018 or 18-Jan-2019 ?

(must teach these Americans to write dates properly)

J A N U A R Y 2 0 18

In your case, you probably should install ALL the updates it will give you

No need to get tetchy

At least you recognize win 7 as the king of windows #
Schoolboy error with notepad, did you honestly expect nix performance from doze ?

they aren't exactly good about keeping their server running 24/7

225 completed WU now 1.5hrs passed deadline because their damned server has been down for 36 hours. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Maybe they are doing it on purpose because TSBT took 2nd in the challenge

Yeah, maybe they didn't like that

Work units running for over 9 hours !!! Really?

Detached. I will leave this project to the Windows experts