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#1 NFS@Home support

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Hi,

Can I request support from you all to run lasieve5f application where we queued more than 1M wus to sieve 6,383-, 7,353+, 7,353-, and 2,1009+composites.

Thank you in advance,

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#2 Re: NFS@Home support

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pinhodecarlos wrote:Hi, Can I request support from you all to run lasieve5f application?
Issue a challenge! lasieve5f is the well-paying 16e Lattice, July is a month with hardly any challenges so far...When the big guns from the great teams have spoken, millions of WUs may have been crunched.
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#3 Re: NFS@Home support

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Don't have power to issue a BOINCStats challenge.
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#4 Re: NFS@Home support

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pinhodecarlos wrote:Don't have power to issue a BOINCStats challenge.
@Carlos, go onto NFS and create a team. Then I think you can go to BStats and issue a challenge.
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#5 Re: NFS@Home support

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Bryan, can't login to BS.
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Carlos, Give me a time frame for when you want one issued and I will do it from my Anguillan Pirates account if you wish.
I will need a bit of lead up time as you need to have a certain RAC and at least 2 crunchers on a project to issue a challenge.
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If the Anguillan Pirates manage to issue the first challenge, I will crunch that challenge for them.
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Alez wrote: I will need a bit of lead up time as you need to have a certain RAC and at least 2 crunchers on a project to issue a challenge.
I'm running some units just now for AP to get our rac up
Dirk Broer wrote:If the Anguillan Pirates manage to issue the first challenge, I will crunch that challenge for them.
That's good of you Dirk.
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Alez wrote:Carlos, Give me a time frame for when you want one issued and I will do it from my Anguillan Pirates account if you wish.
I will need a bit of lead up time as you need to have a certain RAC and at least 2 crunchers on a project to issue a challenge.
Hi Alex,

Sorry for the late reply and thank you for the offer. 10 days challenge between 10th July and 31st July.
Challenge name "NFS@Home push on lasieve5f application"

With kind regards,

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What RAC is needed?
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I think we should have the required RAC now. Just need BoincStats to update and recognise that there is more than 1 cruncher on it and we will be good to go. Will set up for 10/7 00:00 UTC for 7 days as that is the longest we can run a comp for. If that is acceptable to all ?
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Alez wrote:I think we should have the required RAC now. Just need BoincStats to update and recognise that there is more than 1 cruncher on it and we will be good to go. Will set up for 10/7 00:00 UTC for 7 days as that is the longest we can run a comp for. If that is acceptable to all ?
I can move my affiliation into your team if needed because I've been running NFS for a week now.
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Alez wrote: Will set up for 10/7 00:00 UTC for 7 days as that is the longest we can run a comp for. If that is acceptable to all ?
Yip, that's fine with me.
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#14 Re: NFS@Home support

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I was thinking about the challenge name, it should be more generic hence we have more than 750k 14e wu's to queue. To run the 16e wu's ~1GB of memory is needed rather than 400MB for the 14e tasks.
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#15 Re: NFS@Home support

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Need Fast Ships, Pirates Ahoy !! NFS@Home Challenge.

Pirates like numbers. Pirates like to count their loot in the booty locker. Pirates also like spending their loot hence they never deal with really big numbers.
NFS@Home has a really big number of units to crunch. Really large numbers hurt pirates brains. Help a pirate today by making some of the really big numbers on NFS@Home go away.

Any good ? Feel free to suggest alternatives.
Still waiting for the Boincstats server to recognise that there is more than 1 cruncher on NFS. The team status says 3 but the challenge section doesn't agree. We will get there in the end. Carlos, you're more than welcome to be a honoury pirate if you wish. With Dirk onboard to, then this little bunch of pirates might just hammer a few of the larger teams ......
Best make sure there are lots of 16e though as for most systems ( with enough memory ) the 14e and 16e take roughly the same time but 16e pays much, much better and will be prioritised by the challenge.
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Seems good, thank you.
There will be plenty of wus to process.

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pinhodecarlos wrote:Joined as "Carlos Pinho [TSBTs Pirate]"
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Anguillan Pirates welcome ya.
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Thank you.

Just an aside, I work with two Scottish.
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pinhodecarlos wrote:Thank you.

Just an aside, I work with two Scottish.
We are like a virus, we get every where :D
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#20 Re: NFS@Home support

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Any news with regards to the challenge? Already uploaded a few work units so BS should now be with the option available.
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#21 Re: NFS@Home support

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Just to let you guys know that with regards to the 16e number of wus after a conversation with NFS administrator we can easily duplicate or triple the number of available work hence the Cunnigham projects has still a lot of composites to sieve. Let's see what will the challenge show.
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Alez probably got his internet access revoked by the rig operator for streaming too many videos again :roll: As soon as we get confirmation I'm going to load a bunker. I'll stay with Anguillan Pirates and crunch the whole challenge there.
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Jeez, have patience. I'm in India, time zones etc.
Anyhoo, challenge set up http://boincstats.com/en/stats/challenge/team/chat/799
I'll be crunching for Anguillan Pirates too. Only seem right that if I issue the challenge I try my best not to come last.

NFS forum post here

I'll post in challenge section in a mo. Got toi go check in for a helo. Can almost taste the beer :D

Carlos, feel free to abuse your admin powers and post the challenge in the project news section :D
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#24 Re: NFS@Home support

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pinhodecarlos wrote:Joined as "Carlos Pinho [TSBTs Pirate]"
Carlos, did you join TSBT or AP ? We are all on Anguillan Pirates. Anguillan Pirate Team
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Alez wrote:
pinhodecarlos wrote:Joined as "Carlos Pinho [TSBTs Pirate]"
Carlos, did you join TSBT or AP ? We are all on Anguillan Pirates. Anguillan Pirate Team
Joined first TSBT but then AP. I'm already on the stats.
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Nice one. Depending on which teams join this could be fun. If I get home in time I may even bunker :shock: Always a struggle to keep up when scole gives himself a 5 day head start. Finally off ship, time for a beer ( it's not breakfast time here so it's not as bad as it sounds ..... honest ) Image
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I've only 8 cores, how many do you guys have to deploy on NFS?
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I've put most all of them on it, ~100.
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pinhodecarlos wrote:
Alez wrote:
pinhodecarlos wrote:Joined as "Carlos Pinho [TSBTs Pirate]"
Carlos, did you join TSBT or AP ? We are all on Anguillan Pirates. Anguillan Pirate Team
Joined first TSBT but then AP. I'm already on the stats.
Something must have gone wrong: https://escatter11.fullerton.edu/nfs/te ... tal_credit
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I'm always changing from the two teams. I thought you guys were running for formula boinc. Here's my question, should I run for The Scottish Boinc Team or Anguillan Pirates?
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pinhodecarlos wrote:Here's my question, should I run for The Scottish Boinc Team or Anguillan Pirates?
Mine too! What say ye Alez? My bunker drop will put TSBT close to 1st on NFS but OcUK will chase us to get it back. We're in a pretty safe 2nd though with 14mil between TSBT and the 3rd place team. I'm just as happy to crunch for Anguillan Pirates and give them a boost.

Not sure Alez has steady internet access if any at all right now but he should pop back in soon.
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#33 Re: NFS@Home support

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Guys, You will need to check which team you are on. I was kicked back to TSBT, I've changed back again. Carlos , you are on TSBT, so will need to change. Paul and Scole check yours as well please. 3 days to go, maybe time to consider loading up.
I see that Gridcoin are in as are SG, LAF and UBT.
Looks like we could have our hands full on this one.
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#34 Re: NFS@Home support

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Ok, back to the Pirates.
Gridcoin is averaging a daily 1.3M points. We will need a lot of cores to equal them.
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pinhodecarlos wrote:Gridcoin is averaging a daily 1.3M points. We will need a lot of cores to equal them.
Anyone know the phone number for the calvery ? :evil:
Guess we will just have to do what we can. We may not win but we generally put up one hell of a fight for such a small number of users. Now if NFS had droid work ........
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I rang Bryan on the Bat phone but be hasn't answered yet.
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SUSA signed up, may be staying home for this one as P3D and SG are in, or maybe he's not answering the bat phone. Better get the sign up in the sky Image
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Carlos, if Greg isn't signing up Cal state to the challenge, you could always invite him to spend a week hanging out with some pirates :D
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Alez wrote:Carlos, if Greg isn't signing up Cal state to the challenge, you could always invite him to spend a week hanging out with some pirates :D
Awaiting for a reply from Greg.
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Alez wrote: snip/
Now if NFS had droid work ........
I'm in agreement with that Alez!
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If you are looking for 14e badge please serve yourself because we would like to reach 1000 14e (lasieved) factorizations by the end of the year. The ''Now Sieving'' should be completed as well as the ones in ''Queued''. I am processing C187_121_102 which is to be completed within 9 hours. Then I have reserved P223 (284688...)+1 which I don't know if I will be able to build a matrix because last time I tried to process it it was consuming more than 14GB of memory on my laptop!!!

Overall 300k 14e (lasieved) needs to be sieved by NFS@Home and then all of them post-processed in the back stage to achieve 1000 factorizations.

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At Sam's request, NFS@Home will factor the smallest five Bernoulli/Euler numbers. Details of the project are at http://homes.cerias.purdue.edu/~ssw/ber ... index.html

These numbers are below.

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c193 E,162  4433412106658741087933232089378724397906206646379922900251289622751707498087510521673827952479387101476055350479732960366249816761504231219756875500959872022188279008190800161931436720491245839
c198 N,228  296569147970687972018305992022305479444800534802596868167612154770357922331944290632711595707525008075052827152208842160028802232479554533007880867580604612496376331014306272671066168224885301922139
c200 E,192  38520071631718399385569612596870425832813667446322377950818788712501250551228139856601338294522891553906379588542169718154722596682565080979763328866848000587896648249672528064585979301197677287093573
c202 E,148  3288719081408570989091469257524004512856169702169344935878936181981622152040418051052138482890793620819361069696255059446484398066989546855559239020999441385627314503459380878410208878448073950298808719
c208 N,248  1832286501854003138052676989520560424403225562007684729403530852600313798697523554946311839528638518912406077110670650069044969139294389942454684694590767301444969837766981072288000680734361752459501676835073
Application is lasieve5f and more than 1.7M wus to be processed.

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#45 Re: NFS@Home support

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More than 1.8M wus available for the lasieve5f application.
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trying to find out why GCC and LHC@Home can't export sub-project stats I came across the NFS project pages and found out that the code has mentioning of
<applications>
<application>
<name>11e Lattice Sieve</name>
</application>
<application>
<name>12e Lattice Sieve</name>
</application>
<application>
<name>13e Lattice Sieve</name>
</application>
<application>
<name>14e Lattice Sieve</name>
</application>
<application>
<name>15e Lattice Sieve</name>
</application>
<application>
<name>16e Lattice Sieve</name>
</application>
<application>
<name>16e Lattice Sieve V5</name>
</application>

Will we ever see the 11th, 12th and 13th Lattice Sieve? Will they pay even worse than the 14th?
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#47 Re: NFS@Home support

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No chance at all. Even for 14 we are on the work limit available, another year and it should be closed.
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17e Lattice perhaps?
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Dirk Broer wrote: Mon Jun 26, 2017 9:18 am 17e Lattice perhaps?
Not within 10 years.
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Anyone here with access to lots of cores with machines connected with infiniband so msieve MPI can be used for the post processing stage of NFS@Home? No boinc credit available, only your name written on the Cunningham tables.
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