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#1 New to PrimeGrid
New to Primegrid and a bit confused by all the sub-projects. From what I read PPS seive is the best paying. I am using a R9 280x and trying out a GTX 1080. Would like to get badges but a GFN 22 ran for over 66 hours and sits in "Inconclusive" along with wingmen who it errored out or was also inconclusive. Work units that take that long make me nervous. Any advise or input more than welcomed.
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#2 Re: New to PrimeGrid
Yup.
Will need to jot the lost post down to experience I'm afraid
Will need to jot the lost post down to experience I'm afraid
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#3 Re: New to PrimeGrid
I am 67 and getting more and more of an airhead. Wish I could say I was getting used to it.
Thanks for the help!
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#4 Re: New to PrimeGrid
Poppa, when you get a little older, like me, you'll wake up in a brand new world everyday and then it won't bother you anymore
PS I'm aka Nightmare and/or Bowmore
PS I'm aka Nightmare and/or Bowmore
#5 Re: New to PrimeGrid
The memory problems are a real nuisance. But what drives me nuts is not knowing what I just did or even why and missing things that are obvious. Like the BIG red button that says "CLICK HERE". And I am sitting there getting mad because I do not know what to do. lol
Hey Bryan! Hi Peter!
Hey Bryan! Hi Peter!
#6 Re: New to PrimeGrid
Here's a list of the gPU projects available. I've highlighted the ave GPU time. Simply change your preferences on primegrid to run only the types you wish.poppageek wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 4:47 am New to Primegrid and a bit confused by all the sub-projects. From what I read PPS seive is the best paying. I am using a R9 280x and trying out a GTX 1080. Would like to get badges but a GFN 22 ran for over 66 hours and sits in "Inconclusive" along with wingmen who it errored out or was also inconclusive. Work units that take that long make me nervous. Any advise or input more than welcomed.
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PPS gives by far the most points. I run the others on and off for badges and WUProp hours.
Proth Prime Search Sieve (PPS-Sieve)
Deadline: 6 days
Recent average CPU time: 19:38:37
Recent average GPU time: 0:15:49
Arithmetic Progression of Primes 27 (AP27)
Deadline: 7 days (up to 30 days)
Recent average CPU time: 29:49:10
Recent average GPU time: 2:21:58
Generalized Fermat Prime Search n=15 (GFN-15 or Genefer 32768)
b32768+1 (or b215+1)
CPU: Not supported.
Deadline: 4 days (up to 30 days)
Recent average GPU time: 0:07:11
Generalized Fermat Prime Search n=16 (GFN-16 or Genefer 65536)
b65536+1 (or b216+1)
Deadline: 4 days (up to 30 days)
Recent average CPU time: 1:54:46
Recent average GPU time: 0:05:56
Generalized Fermat Prime Search n=17 (GFN-17-Low or Genefer 131072 Low)
b131072+1 (or b217+1)
Deadline: 4 days (up to 30 days)
Recent average CPU time: 12:11:22
Recent average GPU time: 0:12:48
Generalized Fermat Prime Search n=17, b>=42,597,774 (GFN-17-Mega or Genefer 131072 Mega)
b131072+1 (or b217+1), b>=42,597,774
Deadline: 4 days (up to 30 days)
Recent average CPU time: 12:19:48
Recent average GPU time: 0:11:43
Generalized Fermat Prime Search n=18 (GFN-18 or Genefer 262144)
b262144+1 (or b218+1)
Deadline: 4 days (up to 30 days)
Recent average CPU time: 38:27:02
Recent average GPU time: 0:44:58
Generalized Fermat Prime Search n=19 (GFN-19 or Genefer 524288)
b524288+1 (or b219+1)
Deadline: 10 days (up to 40 days)
Recent average CPU time: 195:09:17
Recent average GPU time: 1:55:15
Generalized Fermat Prime Search n=20 (GFN-20 or Genefer 1048576)
b1048576+1 (or b220+1)
Deadline: 15 days (up to 60 days)
Recent average CPU time: 702:08:49
Recent average GPU time: 7:21:04
This project has a 10% long job credit bonus.
Generalized Fermat Prime Search n=21 (GFN-21 or Genefer 2097152)
b2097152+1 (or b221+1)
Deadline: 21 days (up to 84 days)
Recent average CPU time: 412:14:59
Recent average GPU time: 23:30:01
This project has a 20% long job credit bonus.
Generalized Fermat Prime Search n=22 (GFN-22 or Genefer 4194304)
b4194304+1 (or b222+1)
Very long tasks.
GPU: Only recommended for fast GPUs.
CPU: Not supported.
Deadline: 21 days (up to 84 days)
Recent average GPU time: 70:24:25
This project has a 50% long job credit bonus.
Do You Feel Lucky? (Genefer World Record Attempt)
b4194304+1 (or b222+1) with b>=846398
Very long tasks.
GPU: Only recommended for fast GPUs.
CPU: Not supported.
Deadline: 21 days (up to 84 days)
Recent average GPU time: 63:47:23
This project has a 75% long job credit bonus.
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#7 Re: New to PrimeGrid
Thanks!
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#8 Re: New to PrimeGrid
Run your R9 280X on Genefer 22 and GTX 1080 on PPS Sieve.
Try this app_config.xml...
<app_config>
<app>
<name>genefer</name>
<max_concurrent>1</max_concurrent>
<gpu_versions>
<gpu_usage>1</gpu_usage>
<cpu_usage>1</cpu_usage>
</gpu_versions>
</app>
<app>
<name>pps_sr2sieve</name>
<max_concurrent>2</max_concurrent>
<gpu_versions>
<gpu_usage>.5</gpu_usage>
<cpu_usage>.2</cpu_usage>
</gpu_versions>
</app>
</app_config>
Try this app_config.xml...
<app_config>
<app>
<name>genefer</name>
<max_concurrent>1</max_concurrent>
<gpu_versions>
<gpu_usage>1</gpu_usage>
<cpu_usage>1</cpu_usage>
</gpu_versions>
</app>
<app>
<name>pps_sr2sieve</name>
<max_concurrent>2</max_concurrent>
<gpu_versions>
<gpu_usage>.5</gpu_usage>
<cpu_usage>.2</cpu_usage>
</gpu_versions>
</app>
</app_config>
#9 Re: New to PrimeGrid
Thanks I'll give them a try.
Those GFN 22 scare me. Ran one and it went 66 hours and has sat in pending as inconclusive along with 2 others who errored out and one other inconclusive.
Those GFN 22 scare me. Ran one and it went 66 hours and has sat in pending as inconclusive along with 2 others who errored out and one other inconclusive.
#10 Re: New to PrimeGrid
I stick with GFN 19 and less for the badge hunting. PPS sieve for the points. That said, someone has to wear the big boy pants for the glory.
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#11 Re: New to PrimeGrid
Well let's hope the big boy pants aren't too big. Seems I checked too many check boxes and the 1080 has a "You feel lucky?" work unit. Boinc says 10d. Lets hope it's a wee bit shorter than that.
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#12 Re: New to PrimeGrid
You are showing well on our stats now [mention]poppageek[/mention] Very kind of you This table will auto-update
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Thanks for the friendly welcome I've received. I hope someday I'll be viewed as a valued member.
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That 'someday' was yesterday as far as I am concerned.
BTW - I run 1080s as well. I really like them as they score well and cope (just about) with air-only cooling
BTW - I run 1080s as well. I really like them as they score well and cope (just about) with air-only cooling
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#15 Re: New to PrimeGrid
OK talk about big boy pants. One of the XS guys just got this work unit. I gotta ask; would you run this work unit? Look at some of the run times!
19,053,214.77 seconds!
http://www.rnaworld.de/rnaworld/workuni ... id=6330825
19,053,214.77 seconds!
http://www.rnaworld.de/rnaworld/workuni ... id=6330825
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Heh - at my age I've even stopped buying green bananas
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#17 Re: New to PrimeGrid
The 280x for some reason has a high error rate on e@h so I had it on MW@H but they have been so unreliable I decided to try PG. Do not really care about primes but the project itself is interesting and seemingly well run. The 1080 always did well on E@H. Since I passed 1 billion on E@H I am more interested in trying new things. I appreciated a well managed and reliable project. So I am thinking I may stick with PG for whatever time I have before I have to shut down GPUs due to heat. I am hoping for a cool spring and early summer.
The rest of my GPUs are 3 AMD 7870, R9 270, RX 560 and RX 570, 750TI and 660TI. Last 2 on MW@H and seti. Rest still on E@H.
The rest of my GPUs are 3 AMD 7870, R9 270, RX 560 and RX 570, 750TI and 660TI. Last 2 on MW@H and seti. Rest still on E@H.
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We have benchmarking software if you are interested e.g. https://tsbt.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php? ... 083#p69083
Just post a copy/paste of 20 validate WU from ONE computer into that topic and I'll do the rest. Would need to know which GPU and O/S you were using too please
Just post a copy/paste of 20 validate WU from ONE computer into that topic and I'll do the rest. Would need to know which GPU and O/S you were using too please
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#19 Re: New to PrimeGrid
Run it! RNA World WUs are difficult to get. They do run a long, along time...month or more. But you can suspend them if needed to run other projects. They are very forgiving too. Even it it errors out or you abort it, you will get credit for time worked on. It wouldn't take that many RNA WUs to get in the FB standings on that project.poppageek wrote: ↑Fri Mar 08, 2019 8:34 am OK talk about big boy pants. One of the XS guys just got this work unit. I gotta ask; would you run this work unit? Look at some of the run times!
19,053,214.77 seconds!
http://www.rnaworld.de/rnaworld/workuni ... id=6330825
#20 Re: New to PrimeGrid
Dark Angel is who got it and he is running it. Said it was single thread so no biggie.
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My 750k genefer that sat in Inconclusive for a week was marked Invalid. Ouch.
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Ouch indeed
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#23 Re: New to PrimeGrid
You are hammering up the points for today though [mention]poppageek[/mention] - much appreciated. This table auto-updates
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#24 Re: New to PrimeGrid
I had a Feeling Lucky? work unit go valid for 944k. So won't be a normal day.
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#25 Re: New to PrimeGrid
[mention]poppageek[/mention] you inspired me to try some big WU
Just got paid 706K for a Genefer22 but I see my slower CPU and slower GPU meant it took twice as long as the other guy https://www.primegrid.com/workunit.php?wuid=604676133
Just got paid 706K for a Genefer22 but I see my slower CPU and slower GPU meant it took twice as long as the other guy https://www.primegrid.com/workunit.php?wuid=604676133
I think this is fool-proof but could you just try it for me please? • There are 10 types of people in the world; those who understand binary, and those who don’t
#26 Re: New to PrimeGrid
PG does best if you turn off hyper threading. It is very tight code.
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Ah thank you, I do remember seeing that somewhere before. I'll put it in the forum header box
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#28 Re: New to PrimeGrid
Hmmm - Rather than lose 32 threads turning off hyperthreading on my Threadripper, I think I'll reconfigure to run PrimeGrid on something else. I have a Xeon(R) CPU E5-2609 v3 which can't HT but that only runs at 1.90GHz.
Seems like a Pentium with many MHz and not many cores would be the ideal CPU to drive 3 nVidia cards on PrimeGrid
Seems like a Pentium with many MHz and not many cores would be the ideal CPU to drive 3 nVidia cards on PrimeGrid
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I may be mistaken but I think PG will use AVX2 if the machine has that capability.
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Pretty smart stuff this PG. I'll put another 1080 on the E5-2609 v3 and see how it works out
Thank you
Thank you
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#31 Re: New to PrimeGrid
Landed a 944K WU from the gtx1660ti last night https://www.primegrid.com/workunit.php?wuid=606226087
Took 50 hours given the rather modest GPU / CPU involved (HT is on). My wingman was just under half that time on superior kit
Took 50 hours given the rather modest GPU / CPU involved (HT is on). My wingman was just under half that time on superior kit
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My comments were based on running it on CPU. If you are just doing GPU then HT makes no difference.
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Ah - I misunderstood. I thought you were referring to the (not inconsiderable amount of) code which still ran on the CPU to keep the GPU busy
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#34 Re: New to PrimeGrid
While I have very little interest in Prime numbers I think Prime Grid is the most interesting and well done project and web site of any I have participated. I'm off it now but plan on returning sometime this fall. Summer heat means much fewer crunchers. Sad times.
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#35 Re: New to PrimeGrid
If you have CPU cores that you can keep cool the Generalized Cullen Woodall Sieve pays well for a CPU app and you can also earn a sub-project badge. That sub-project is going to shut down May 1st I think so get it while you can.
They recently revived the 321 Sieve app and it pays even better on CPU. Not sure how long it remain active.
They recently revived the 321 Sieve app and it pays even better on CPU. Not sure how long it remain active.
#36 Re: New to PrimeGrid
You guys got me thinking PG again. I'd like to get in on that GCW work units but I am trying to get my 100 year on MCM on WCG. Only 4 more years, about 20-25 days _IF_ I can keep up current RAC. It is already hitting 80f or 27c here some days. I have shut down most of my GPUs on E@H to free up CPU cores. But IIRC some of PG GPU work units use very little CPU. So I put a 1080 and RX 570 on PG and will filter out the work units that use a lot of CPU.
We often have to shut down some of the machines during the afternoon and evening but roughly 18 hours a day is not too bad. More than nuthin' according to my calculations.
Hope all are doing well! Cheers!
We often have to shut down some of the machines during the afternoon and evening but roughly 18 hours a day is not too bad. More than nuthin' according to my calculations.
Hope all are doing well! Cheers!