The Scottish Boinc Team

Easiest way is to run the ASICs on a separate computer like I do.
Not the answer you want so here goes. The boinc scheduler is a piece of $hit concocted into Boinc by DA to help further the cause of credit new, where all projects pay the same crap credits to keep the Seti acolytes happy. Basically what he did was change it from how it used to work which was as you would think as a human makes sense and follow what you put in for project shares in your account page or far easier in Bamstats. What he changed was to base scheduler requests on RAC, so all projects scheduling is based on the principle that they all issue roughly the same credit. You have now ran into it's ridiculous consequences. The scheduler now see's the RAC on bitcoin and believes that every other project you are running needs time to balance the ' amount of work ' put into bitcoin. It will now completely ignore your wishes.
You will now have to set bitcoin to a ridiculously high resource share level compared to other projects to get the scheduler to request work. Also if you are running the recommended version of boinc I would update to a later test version as they have been working on the scheduler. I am running 7.4.8.
You can also force it to download manually but that involves babysitting the computer at least every day.
There is a third way which we might have to employ if this doesn't work where you have to edit the projects scheduler priority in one of the .xml files but I will have to do a search for it as I can't remember which one you need to edit to basically reset the scheduler priority on bitcoin.

Megacruncher, are you running more than 1 BU task at a time? If so, you need to limit your PC to 1 active WU at a time. In the BU preferences, select only 1 1.6Gh/s campaign app. Then put this app_config.xml in your BU project folder...
<app_config>
<app>
<name>A-cgminer-4.4.0</name>
<max_concurrent>1</max_concurrent>
</app>
<app>
<name>B-cgminer-4.4.0</name>
<max_concurrent>1</max_concurrent>
</app>
<app>
<name>C-cgminer</name>
<max_concurrent>1</max_concurrent>
</app>
<app>
<name>A-cgminer-rbox</name>
<max_concurrent>1</max_concurrent>
</app>
<app>
<name>B-cgminer-rbox</name>
<max_concurrent>1</max_concurrent>
</app>
<app>
<name>C-cgminer-rbox</name>
<max_concurrent>1</max_concurrent>
</app>
<app>
</app_config>

Quick question to my bitcoin bashing buddies (hopefully!)
If one were to hypothetically add another antminer what changes - if any - would you need to make to any configs?

No change needed to the config. Just need to make sure whatever you have it plugged into, that it can power all the U2s. If you have a powered hub, it shouldn't be a problem. Just make sure the total watts of the hub power supply exceeds the 2 x number of U2s. Note though, I've never been able to get more than 3 U2s working on a single PC. Not for lack of power, but with more than 3 connected, I kept getting USB errors.

Just plug it in, install the driver, zidag it to the correct driver and it should be picked up and used, they are designed to hash together. They don't work as separate units like a GPU, each one just adds more hashing power to the pool you are connected to.
I have 4 ants, 3 bit furies and 1 bi fury attached to to powered hubs daisychained together ie 1 hub connected to the other, then connected to 1 port on the computer. No issues running them. I bought a £45 quid dell optiplex win 7 computer from the company I pm'd you on ebay so I don't have to bother with configs or anything as it only runs bitcoin and wuprop. I have three of them now running the ASICS.

Thanks chaps, thats pretty much what I thought. Plug and play usb after all :)
Not sure I'll be expanding my farm to anywhere near the level of you two credit junkies

tis an addiction any further issues, shout or pm

Thanks Alez, I always assume that your help is just a pm away
Once my postie has been next I think that will be my insect purchasing over for now.

I am tempted to look into running them on an Odroid though for the ultimate low powered credit crunching machine. I know that poeple have mined bitcoin using a raspberry pi as control but not sure how that would transfer to boinc, maybe it could be an odroid job and time to try linux

always, if I can mate. Not sure about the ordroid, sure it would be possible. I know there are images available for the pi that are preloaded with cgminer but that would only work using the command line. Far easier just to get a cheap win 7 machine since in reality there is no cpu use so the computer is on idle anyway.

For those with a r-box or considering a r-box, instead of powering it with a single 12v power supply like this http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003TU ... 5I35FA61KI, consider powering from your PSU with cables like these http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MAO ... UTF8&psc=1. The single stand alone power supplies generate a lot of heat, which means it's drawing much more power than just what the r-box is using. Your PC PSU should be much more efficient at converting to 12v power. I replaced 3 stand alone power supplies with a single 3 way cable that plugs into a PCI-E power cord. A lot of excess heat went away.

And if I can get the damn thing to work properly on the app I am helping develop, then you will also have the option of running gritseed ASICs here which are a lot more commonly available than r-boxs.
Don't suppose anyone knows how to put a delay on start into the Boinc wrapper ?
Got the app itself and the command options working perfect but the usb detect suxs

Does it need to be done in the BOINC wrapper or in cgminer? Here's a list of cgminer command line options...https://github.com/ckolivas/cgminer/blob/master/README

Here's a couple options suggested, in BU forum, to help with USB errors...

There are 2 options for cgminer but dont know if they are helping:
--minion-spidelay (Add a delay in microseconds after each SPI I/O)
--minion-spisleep (Sleep time in milliseconds when doing an SPI reset)

Command options are required in both.

The 2 options posted up don't work, at least not for gridseeds. They are not general cgminer command, but specific miner type commands. A lot of the stuff on the BU forum is not very relevant ... sometimes think some of the admins don't really have much knowledge ..

Do they use a custom cgminer version? If so, can't they add a command line option for number of seconds to sleep before initializing the USB devices? Do we have access to the source? I'm a java programmer, but I could probably sift though and suggest some code to add.

yes they use a custom cgminer as they are dual miners, capable of mining both BTC and scrypt simultaneously.

http://cryptomining-blog.com/1245-downl ... 355-asics/ is the version I am using as it works for a while before need ing a hotplug.

http://minerdesk.com/updated-cgminer-4- ... c-support/ is the version currently being run by the wrapper which again works perfectly except it fails to find the device nearly every time on starting a second unit.

https://github.com/gridseed/usb-miner/t ... re/cgminer github for cgminer.

I have no idea whether either of these versions have been compiled with icarus support or not. I suspect not as I have never seen an icarus message when hotplugging the gridseed unlike say the ants.
If you wish to look see if you can find icarus support or compile a version with gridseed support and icarus support or a delayed start of some form I can test it but I am not a programmer. I can just about hack some bits of Linux, last time I seen c+ was probably 25 years ago

I'm trying to build you a cgminer.exe from minerdesk.com, but taking a little work to get set up. Never coded or compiled C before, but getting there. Once I know I can build an exe that works the same as what you have, I can start to tweak it. What miner options do you want with it?
--enable-cpumining Build with cpu mining support(default disabled)
--disable-opencl Override detection and disable building with opencl
--enable-bitforce Compile support for BitForce FPGAs(default disabled)
--enable-icarus Compile support for Icarus Board(default disabled)
--enable-scrypt Compile support for scrypt litecoin mining (default disabled)
--enable-bitfury
--enable-bflsc
--enable-GridSeed

unless it is needed would miss out cpumining, not worth it.
disable opencl, again no point.
probably enable scrypt as it leaves the option of LT

sounds good. Will pm you email to send it to and I will embed in wrapper.

Will also send the zip to you so you know what libs are including.

HELP ME!!!

I canne get nae work lol.

I have 3 antminers installed (thanks Willie) got the zaidig thingy with the drivers installed my comp knows there there, says CP2102 USB to UART Bridge controller x 3.

Have it set to 1.6gh and 333 campaign 1, 3 and 4, have a app config in boinc Bitcoin Utopia project with
<app_config>
<app>
<name>cgminer</name>
</app>
<app_version>
<app_name>cgminer</app_name>
<cmdline>--anu-freq xxx</cmdline>
</app_version>
</app_config>

And a cc in project data with >
<cc_config>
<options>
<coproc>
<type>miner_asic</type>
<count>3</count>
</coproc>
</options>
</cc_config>

So what is wrong???

To the best of my knowledge, you need to have BOINC 7.4.12 or better running.

Also, need this in your cc_config.xml...
<coproc>
<type>miner_asic</type>
<count>1</count>
</coproc>

Config options have changed frequently, but this is what my app_config.xml looks like...
<app_config>
<app>
<name>C-cgminer</name>
<max_concurrent>1</max_concurrent>
</app>
<app_version>
<plan_class>asic</plan_class>
<app_name>C-cgminer</app_name>
<cmdline>--anu-freq 250</cmdline>
</app_version>
</app_config>

And on that particular system, I have to suspend all other projects before BU will download WUs. After I get a cache, I resume the other projects.

Right thanks for the help.

I need to start again from scratch, so................

I need to put what where?

1-Program data>boinc>projects>www.boicoinutopia.net_bitcoinutopia what goes in here???

2- program data>boinc what goes in here???

This is what i have in
1. app_config>
<app_config>
<app>
<name>C-cgminer</name>
<max_concurrent>1</max_concurrent>
</app>
<app_version>
<plan_class>asic</plan_class>
<app_name>C-cgminer</app_name>
<cmdline>--anu-freq 250</cmdline>
</app_version>
</app_config>

2. i have a cc_config in boinc with this in

<cc_config>
<options>
<use_all_gpus>1</use_all_gpus>
</options>
</cc_config>
<cc_config>
<options>
<coproc>
<type>miner_asic</type>
<count>3</count>
</coproc>
</options>
</cc_config>

Am using 7.4.12

Program data>boinc>projects>www.boicoinutopia.net_bitcoinutopia what goes in here??? app_config.xml

program data>boinc what goes in here??? cc_config.xml

app_config.xml looks ok as long it doesn't have the extra app_config> in it.

Make your cc_config.xml look like this...

<cc_config>
<options>
<use_all_gpus>1</use_all_gpus>
<coproc>
<type>miner_asic</type>
<count>1</count>
</coproc>
</options>
</cc_config>

It will use all 3 ASICs automatically. You don't need any special config for that. As far as I know you only need coproc count set to 1. Not sure what 3 would do.

Schole, cheers mucker, it was that 3asic thing that stopped it working, i just changed it to 1 and off it went, pernickety project , all is good now, Thanks pal :).

Paul, how many ant's you running?

Hi Rob. I've got 3 ants scurrying away.
How are you getting on with yours? I'll need to have a look at the stats and establish the threat level from you!

Ich haben vier , so if you have 3 why are you getting more credit per hour on average than me???

robmacagain wrote:Ich haben vier , so if you have 3 why are you getting more credit per hour on average than me???

I'd love to tell you but I haven't a clue.
Have you left a core free for Bitcoin/the ants to use?
I was trying to 'share' a core between bitcoin/ants and my gpu - it looked like it was ok but since I've left one free my numbers seem to have gone up.

What do you mean, Have i left a core free, on my cpu? my cpu is doing no crunching what so ever, i don't like it crunching.

There you go, the cpu is sleeping better start flogging it

Though seriously, do you have a powered hub ?, does it produce enough power ? Do you have a fan on the ants? are they running too hot ? Bitcoin works only on the internet, is your connection slow compared to silvers ? Are all 3 of your ant's working ? Is one of them throwing hardware errors or has many rejected shares. Check the stderr rpt in the project slot or under tasks on the project page.

Did someone unload dodgy stock on you

Well 75% of them are from oor willy!!!

Nope no errors, yep all working no powered hub all plugged in to the pc all flashing little green lights in a random order, am on Virgin 100mb so it isne slow, no fans on them there a bit hot but you can touch them, oh aye the cpu is staying idle n all, cant be sat near it when there crunching as the rad chucks some serious heat out, never seen the cpu temperature go over 51c :) but it still is not crunching.

no comment on the source

Are you both running the same app and campaign ? Could also be down to luck. Me and Scole have very similar capacities at the moment in GH/s but some days have wildly different outputs, though it does seem to average out over a few days when we can both keep our wee farms chugging along.
There doesn't seem to be an obvious reason, give it a couple of days and see where you are averaging out .

Rob, copy and paste your cc_config.xml and app_config.xml contents and lets see if we can see anything.

<app_config>
<app>
<name>C-cgminer</name>
<max_concurrent>1</max_concurrent>
</app>
<app_version>
<plan_class>asic</plan_class>
<app_name>C-cgminer</app_name>
<cmdline>--anu-freq 250</cmdline>
</app_version>
</app_config>

<cc_config>
<options>
<use_all_gpus>1</use_all_gpus>
<coproc>
<type>miner_asic</type>
<count>1</count>
</coproc>
</options>
</cc_config>

There you are sir, looks ok to me .

First, there seem to have been some extra payout reported on the BU forum this week. It's random who got it and they're working to correct it. Paul may have gotten a few more extra. I don't see anything wrong with your config either. Your WU logs show that your miners are crunching over 6 Gh/s. I checked 40 WUs from you and Paul. Your times are less than Pauls, but only by about 10%, not as much as expected. One thing to help for now is getting the oveclocking working. Have you restarted BOINC since getting the app_config.xml set correctly. If not, shut down the client and restart so it will pick up the cmdline with the freq setting. Should give another 1.5 Gh/s per miner or 30% throughput.

Just a reminder there's a Collatz challenge starting tomorrow and your 7990 would sure make a contribution. Here's the forum link...http://www.dunadd.co.uk/seti/forum/view ... 148&t=2387

If you overclock the ant's make sure they are cooled or they will overheat...... they do get hot enough to burn fingers etc.
All the new water cooling is just begging to be let off the leash and stretch it's legs, collatz hint, hint

YEAH yeah, i get it, but it wont be 24/7 for a straight 7 days, but i will do some.

robmacagain wrote:YEAH yeah, i get it, but it wont be 24/7 for a straight 7 days, but i will do some.

Peer pressure strikes again.
Or maybe that should be pirate pressure :pirate:

Silver wrote:

robmacagain wrote:YEAH yeah, i get it, but it wont be 24/7 for a straight 7 days, but i will do some.

Peer pressure strikes again.
Or maybe that should be pirate pressure :pirate:

Yarrrr , I mean nayyyyy, nah Yarrrrr

robmacagain wrote:YEAH yeah, i get it, but it wont be 24/7 for a straight 7 days, but i will do some.

No intent to put pressure on you, honest. Just wanted to make sure you knew about the challenge.

scole250 wrote:

robmacagain wrote:YEAH yeah, i get it, but it wont be 24/7 for a straight 7 days, but i will do some.

No intent to put pressure on you, honest. Just wanted to make sure you knew about the challenge.

Liar, liar, pants on fire

I may not be shy about dropping a few hints or reminders about a challenge or putting a call out for more crunchers on them, but when a GPU is sucking down over 300 watts of power, there are costs to consider. Last time my wife saw our electric bill, she asked "Why is this going up? Is there something wrong with the AC?". I quickly muttered, "Tell Jack to turn his TV and Xbox off when he leaves his room". There will be no badgering from me about this. We finally lured Rob into running BU. Our time would be better spent urging him to upgrade to an r-box.

scole250 wrote: Your WU logs show that your miners are crunching over 6 Gh/s. I checked 40 WUs from you and Paul. Your times are less than Pauls, but only by about 10%, not as much as expected.

I'm probably missing the obvious here but where are you seeing the Gh/s rate?

Go to your account on BU, computers on this account or tasks, valid, then click on a task to see the completed stderr. scroll down to the bottom and you will find a summary of per devices. gives in order device name, 5s and ave GH/s A accepted shares R rejected shares HW hardware errors see below

[2014-09-11 20:14:43] Summary of per device statistics:

[2014-09-11 20:14:43] BAJ0 (5s):7.122G (avg):6.794Gh/s | A:0 R:0 HW:31 WU:87.6/m
[2014-09-11 20:14:43] BXM0 (5s):4.014G (avg):4.865Gh/s | A:1024 R:0 HW:0 WU:68.1/m
[2014-09-11 20:14:43] NF10 (5s):1.966G (avg):1.858Gh/s | A:0 R:0 HW:0 WU:27.2/m
[2014-09-11 20:14:43] LIN0 (5s):35.13G (avg):32.43Gh/s | A:3072 R:1024 HW:5 WU:453.1/m
[2014-09-11 20:14:43] ANU0 (5s):1.591G (avg):1.591Gh/s | A:1024 R:0 HW:2 WU:22.9/m
[2014-09-11 20:14:43] ANU1 (5s):1.598G (avg):1.591Gh/s | A:1024 R:0 HW:7 WU:21.4/m
[2014-09-11 20:14:43] ANU2 (5s):1.596G (avg):1.584Gh/s | A:1024 R:0 HW:2 WU:21.5/m
[2014-09-11 20:14:43] ANU3 (5s):1.597G (avg):1.592Gh/s | A:0 R:0 HW:0 WU:24.3/m
[2014-09-1 [2014-09-11 20:14:43] LIN2 (5s):40.32G (avg):32.86Gh/s | A:8192 R:1024 HW:0 WU:459.3/m
[2014-09-11 20:14:43] Mined 20480 accepted shares of 20480 requested

[2014-09-11 20:14:43]
1 20:14:43] LIN1 (5s):36.48G (avg):32.23Gh/s | A:5120 R:0 HW:0 WU:450.4/m
[2014-09-11 20:14:43] LIN2 (5s):40.32G (avg):32.86Gh/s | A:8192 R:1024 HW:0 WU:459.3/m
[2014-09-11 20:14:43] Mined 20480 accepted shares of 20480 requested

Thanks Alez, just having a poke around after Robs questions and Scoles post.
I'm starting to look over my shoulder since a certain team member has acquired some new gear - and maybe need to step up a gear

scole250 wrote:. Last time my wife saw our electric bill, she asked "Why is this going up? Is there something wrong with the AC?". I quickly muttered, "Tell Jack to turn his TV and Xbox off when he leaves his room.

Never, ever let your wife see the 'lecky bill. Usually you will save some money by switching to online billing, so do it. If despite this she sees it you must blame the Ukrainian civil war, or some other local issue.

Although both are done online through my account, my wife and I came to an agreement a long time ago. She doesn't ask about the electricity bill, I never mention the phone bill. Simples

Grrr bloomin RockMiner R-Box locked up last night at roughly 19:00 only spotted it this morning, lost roughly 25,000,000 .

HELP.

Had to reinstall windows again today (dont ask) and now BU wont use my asics properly, what do i do???

-Download zadig and install USB drivers
-add entries to cc_config.xml...
<coproc>
<type>miner_asic</type>
<count>1</count>
</coproc>
-click your heels 3 times and pray

done the cc_config and app_config and zadig, entrys to cc_config..........................errrr, where?

<cc_config>
<log_flags>
<file_xfer>1</file_xfer>
<sched_ops>1</sched_ops>
<task>1</task>
<android_debug>0</android_debug>
<app_msg_receive>0</app_msg_receive>
<app_msg_send>0</app_msg_send>
<async_file_debug>0</async_file_debug>
<benchmark_debug>0</benchmark_debug>
<checkpoint_debug>0</checkpoint_debug>
<coproc_debug>0</coproc_debug>
<cpu_sched>0</cpu_sched>
<cpu_sched_debug>0</cpu_sched_debug>
<cpu_sched_status>0</cpu_sched_status>
<dcf_debug>0</dcf_debug>
<disk_usage_debug>0</disk_usage_debug>
<file_xfer_debug>0</file_xfer_debug>
<gui_rpc_debug>0</gui_rpc_debug>
<heartbeat_debug>0</heartbeat_debug>
<http_debug>0</http_debug>
<http_xfer_debug>0</http_xfer_debug>
<mem_usage_debug>0</mem_usage_debug>
<network_status_debug>0</network_status_debug>
<notice_debug>0</notice_debug>
<poll_debug>0</poll_debug>
<priority_debug>0</priority_debug>
<proxy_debug>0</proxy_debug>
<rr_simulation>0</rr_simulation>
<rrsim_detail>0</rrsim_detail>
<sched_op_debug>0</sched_op_debug>
<scrsave_debug>0</scrsave_debug>
<slot_debug>0</slot_debug>
<state_debug>0</state_debug>
<statefile_debug>0</statefile_debug>
<suspend_debug>0</suspend_debug>
<task_debug>0</task_debug>
<time_debug>0</time_debug>
<trickle_debug>0</trickle_debug>
<unparsed_xml>0</unparsed_xml>
<work_fetch_debug>0</work_fetch_debug>
</log_flags>
<options>
<allow_multiple_clients>0</allow_multiple_clients>
<allow_remote_gui_rpc>0</allow_remote_gui_rpc>
<client_version_check_url>http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download.php? ... _check_url>
<client_new_version_text></client_new_version_text>
<client_download_url>http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download.php< ... wnload_url>
<coproc>
<type>miner_asic</type>
<count>1</count>
<peak_flops>0.000000</peak_flops>
<device_nums>0</device_nums>
</coproc>
<disallow_attach>0</disallow_attach>
<dont_check_file_sizes>0</dont_check_file_sizes>
<dont_contact_ref_site>0</dont_contact_ref_site>
<exit_after_finish>0</exit_after_finish>
<exit_before_start>0</exit_before_start>
<exit_when_idle>0</exit_when_idle>
<fetch_minimal_work>0</fetch_minimal_work>
<fetch_on_update>0</fetch_on_update>
<force_auth>default</force_auth>
<http_1_0>0</http_1_0>
<http_transfer_timeout>300</http_transfer_timeout>
<http_transfer_timeout_bps>10</http_transfer_timeout_bps>
<max_event_log_lines>2000</max_event_log_lines>
<max_file_xfers>8</max_file_xfers>
<max_file_xfers_per_project>2</max_file_xfers_per_project>
<max_stderr_file_size>0</max_stderr_file_size>
<max_stdout_file_size>0</max_stdout_file_size>
<max_tasks_reported>0</max_tasks_reported>
<ncpus>-1</ncpus>
<network_test_url>http://www.google.com/</network_test_url>
<no_alt_platform>0</no_alt_platform>
<no_gpus>0</no_gpus>
<no_info_fetch>0</no_info_fetch>
<no_priority_change>0</no_priority_change>
<os_random_only>0</os_random_only>
<proxy_info>
<socks_server_name></socks_server_name>
<socks_server_port>80</socks_server_port>
<http_server_name></http_server_name>
<http_server_port>80</http_server_port>
<socks5_user_name></socks5_user_name>
<socks5_user_passwd></socks5_user_passwd>
<http_user_name></http_user_name>
<http_user_passwd></http_user_passwd>
<no_proxy></no_proxy>
</proxy_info>
<rec_half_life_days>10.000000</rec_half_life_days>
<report_results_immediately>0</report_results_immediately>
<run_apps_manually>0</run_apps_manually>
<save_stats_days>30</save_stats_days>
<skip_cpu_benchmarks>0</skip_cpu_benchmarks>
<simple_gui_only>0</simple_gui_only>
<start_delay>0.000000</start_delay>
<stderr_head>0</stderr_head>
<suppress_net_info>0</suppress_net_info>
<unsigned_apps_ok>0</unsigned_apps_ok>
<use_all_gpus>1</use_all_gpus>
<use_certs>0</use_certs>
<use_certs_only>0</use_certs_only>
<vbox_window>0</vbox_window>
</options>
</cc_config>

Your cc_config entries are already there. Check your computing preferences and make sure it will run while pc in use, try bumping up min work buffer, suspend any other projects to see if that will trigger a WU download.