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#1 TSBT challenge 04/3-11/3 Let's March on with TN-Grid

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https://boincstats.com/en/stats/challen ... /chat/1054

Name Let's March on with TN-Grid
Status Upcoming
Project TN-Grid
Issued by The Scottish Boinc Team
Start time 2019-03-04 00:00 UTC
End time 2019-03-11 00:00 UTC
Late entrants allowed? Yes
Number of teams participating » 11
Number of users participating 0

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#2 Re: TSBT challenge 04/3-11/3 Let's March on with TN-Grid

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Join your team on this challenge. Starting in @7 days time. TN-Grid.
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#3 Re: TSBT challenge 04/3-11/3 Let's March on with TN-Grid

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On BOINCstats challenge chat:
If your team is not competing on challenges and you want to join in, then you are more than welcome to join TSBT for the duration of the challenge.
Find us at www.TSBT.co.uk
Of course I'm sure other teams on the challenge will be more than happy to extend a welcome to you as well.
The more, the merrier
We extend the same offer to any guests reading this on our forum. Join us for a week of fun and banter.
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#4 Re: TSBT challenge 04/3-11/3 Let's March on with TN-Grid

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That's convenient, I was planning on switching to TN-Grid / Wanless at the end of February.

I'll see what the rest of the team are doing, you'll either have an extra competitor or an extra (temporary :lol: ) team member.
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#5 Re: TSBT challenge 04/3-11/3 Let's March on with TN-Grid

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[mention]UBT - Woodles[/mention] ,We'll take either the temporary member or a bit of local competition for jokes and general wind ups :D
If you're competing against us, I expect some ' piss taking' from both side on the forum please :lol:
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#6 Re: TSBT challenge 04/3-11/3 Let's March on with TN-Grid

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What exactly TN-Grid is crunching?
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#7 Re: TSBT challenge 04/3-11/3 Let's March on with TN-Grid

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Hal Bregg wrote: Mon Feb 25, 2019 9:46 pm What exactly TN-Grid is crunching?
More info is available in science section of TN-Grid forum https://gene.disi.unitn.it/test/forum_forum.php?id=2
Basically , currently studying genes related to

A.Thaliana

Prostate Cancer

Coronary artery diseases

The goal of this experiment is the identification of gene networks involving human genes of medical relevance for two broad families of human pathologies: motor neuron diseases (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_neuron_disease) and hematopoietic tumors (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tumors_of ... id_tissues).
Human gene network expansion will take advantage of the comprehensive gene expression dataset provided by the FANTOM project (http://fantom.gsc.riken.jp/5/data/).

Moving to the FANTOM project dataset has been a big challenge for us. The original input contains a slightly different type of data (RNAseq instead of micro-array contrasts) and has 10 times the variables of the biggest data matrix we used so far.

Human is known to have around 20.000 protein-coding genes and 5.000 non-coding ones, but the technology employed in the FANTOM project allowed them to analyze expression at a higher resolution, reporting data also for alternative splicing. The raw dataset reports expression levels for more then 200.000 transcripts in 1829 conditions, wich would been too big to be explored, so we had to filter it.
A strongly related challenge comes from the highly specificity of certain transcripts, that are expressed only in few conditions. This is translated in lines of data with very few non-zero entries that are very likely to correlate one with another.

We are currently testing two version of the input dataset. The first one is a general filtering on the lines that have no HGNC code (www.genenames.org). The second is a more fine grained filtering, where we have removed also transcripts with less then 10% non-zero entries and gene-isoforms too similar one with another.

Most of the work in this moment is focused toward understanding which one of the two dataset is performing "better".
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#8 Re: TSBT challenge 04/3-11/3 Let's March on with TN-Grid

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For this challenge we are testing a new in house stats system for TSBT useage . See the first post in this thread for the table. https://tsbt.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=149&t=10999

Currently showing data in real time. Dat will be reset to start date of competition.
The more that join the challenge for the team , the better we will be able to test the system.
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#9 Re: TSBT challenge 04/3-11/3 Let's March on with TN-Grid

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Quite a little internal team battle going on already within the team. If only I was home :think: ..... sure there are a few more cores I could find :lol:
[mention]Megacruncher[/mention] on top of the pile so far :clap:
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#10 Re: TSBT challenge 04/3-11/3 Let's March on with TN-Grid

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Awesome stuff Mega :clap: :clap:

When is it we can start bunkering? Is it midnight tonight?
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#11 Re: TSBT challenge 04/3-11/3 Let's March on with TN-Grid

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I guess you need to check the deadline on the units you have. On my laptop they are all 2/3/19 which would obviously have expired before the start.
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#12 Re: TSBT challenge 04/3-11/3 Let's March on with TN-Grid

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davidBAM wrote: Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:33 pm Awesome stuff Mega :clap: :clap:

When is it we can start bunkering? Is it midnight tonight?
Tasks have a five day deadline, anything downloaded after midnight tonight will last until the challenge starts.
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#13 Re: TSBT challenge 04/3-11/3 Let's March on with TN-Grid

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What I meant was tasks have a five hour deadline, no point in bunkering anything :liar: :whistle:
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#14 Re: TSBT challenge 04/3-11/3 Let's March on with TN-Grid

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:lol: Thanks Woodies - will you be competing against, or joining us for the Challenge ? :P

Competing against, judging by that last post :lol: :lol:
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#15 Re: TSBT challenge 04/3-11/3 Let's March on with TN-Grid

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UBT - Woodles wrote: Tue Feb 26, 2019 4:05 pm
davidBAM wrote: Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:33 pm Awesome stuff Mega :clap: :clap:

When is it we can start bunkering? Is it midnight tonight?
Tasks have a five day deadline, anything downloaded after midnight tonight will last until the challenge starts.
Although you will need to finish or abort any units running that won't finish in time before you close the lid on your bunker.
[mention]UBT - Woodles[/mention] You joining us for this or are we having a dog fight with the neighbors. We have team stats for this one .......... :whistle: , just sayin :D
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#16 Re: TSBT challenge 04/3-11/3 Let's March on with TN-Grid

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Teams so far
  • BOINC.Italy
  • SETI.USA
  • L'Alliance Francophone
  • BOINC@Poland
  • SETI.Germany
  • UK BOINC Team
  • The Scottish Boinc Team
  • Planet 3DNow!
Dog fight with the neighbors it is then :D
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#17 Re: TSBT challenge 04/3-11/3 Let's March on with TN-Grid

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main machines all bunkered up :D
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#18 Re: TSBT challenge 04/3-11/3 Let's March on with TN-Grid

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Note that these teams are from FB League 2 rather than from the Challenge itself

26-Feb-19TN-GridProject Points
Marathon Pts 2019 Totalearned 26-Feb-19vs. day beforeOvertake
25Ars Technica2,075,74611,8202,818 more4day
18The Scottish Boinc Team1,209,287249,43064,604 less-
15BOINCstats255,5384,8072,482 more-
12The Planetary Society228,9982951,304 less-
10BOINC@Denmark199,6834,3411,076 less-
8meisterkuehler.de Team79,79410,2917,517 more-
6SETIKAH@KOREA67,8461,0322,289 less-
4AMD Users62,2697604 less-
2BOINC Synergy51,109717334 less-
1Microsoft48,454466622 less-
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#19 Re: TSBT challenge 04/3-11/3 Let's March on with TN-Grid

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Hi all,

A few of the team have decided that we need to limber up a bit before the Formula Boinc sprints start so we shall be (hopefully) giving you a little friendly competition.

UBT gets automatically entered into all the Boincstats challenges (something to do with the way they're set up?) but we don't always compete. We will be this time though.

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#20 Re: TSBT challenge 04/3-11/3 Let's March on with TN-Grid

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UBT - Woodles wrote: Wed Feb 27, 2019 8:30 am Hi all,

A few of the team have decided that we need to limber up a bit before the Formula Boinc sprints start so we shall be (hopefully) giving you a little friendly competition.

UBT gets automatically entered into all the Boincstats challenges (something to do with the way they're set up?) but we don't always compete. We will be this time though.

Good luck all.
We are the same with the automatic entry. It was something available a long time ago on BOINCstats, but not anymore. As far as I'm aware the only way to revoke it would be to contact Willie and ask him to do it. I just left as is. Easier to just not compete than to revoke and sign up for ones we want to do.
Hopefully we get a good turn out and a bit of fun as we go.
Good luck to all your guys and girls.
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#21 Re: TSBT challenge 04/3-11/3 Let's March on with TN-Grid

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I've copied the stats table to the post in the general forum https://tsbt.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php? ... 422#p68422 so guests can see it. to ask Hal Don't want our butts kicked on our own challenge. I'm hoping to get home before start so I can at least get a few days bunkering in.
[mention]Hal Bregg[/mention] We would love your help on this challenge if you fancy it.
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#22 Re: TSBT challenge 04/3-11/3 Let's March on with TN-Grid

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anyone joining the fray will appear automatically when WU validate - that's what I was testing with Kevin de Bruyne :D
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#23 Re: TSBT challenge 04/3-11/3 Let's March on with TN-Grid

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davidBAM wrote: Wed Feb 27, 2019 6:38 am main machines all bunkered up :D
Check their expiry date. I'm still getting units on 32 bit win that expire on 3/3
davidBAM wrote: Wed Feb 27, 2019 9:52 am anyone joining the fray will appear automatically when WU validate - that's what I was testing with Kevin de Bruyne :D
Controversial choice, Belgium footballer and all :wink:
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#24 Re: TSBT challenge 04/3-11/3 Let's March on with TN-Grid

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Actually, that gives me an idea. I can test a name change to see if it all still works.

Now, let me see, what name would be even more controversial ... ...
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#25 Re: TSBT challenge 04/3-11/3 Let's March on with TN-Grid

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davidBAM wrote: Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:02 am Actually, that gives me an idea. I can test a name change to see if it all still works.

Now, let me see, what name would be even more controversial ... ...
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Done. We might have a long time to wait as I'm expecting it to happen when the next full scrape happens. Care to take a guess?
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#27 Re: TSBT challenge 04/3-11/3 Let's March on with TN-Grid

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Flame war 2019 ....
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#28 Re: TSBT challenge 04/3-11/3 Let's March on with TN-Grid

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I guess I had better post on the TN-Grid forum, see if we can drum up some more support and give them a heads up that their server is about to take a battering :twisted:
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#29 Re: TSBT challenge 04/3-11/3 Let's March on with TN-Grid

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John Rae, Orkney born arctic explorer I presume ?
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Indeed - I am impressed :clap:
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The more-astute of you will notice that the top post now contains 2 stats tables. One for TSBT and the other for our mortal enemies good friends at UBT.

Most of us will be bunkering so don't expect much movement until 4th March when all hell will break loose. I will also synchronise the start times on both to be the Challenge start time - thereafter in theory my totals should agree with a fresh update on Boincstats.

This is new code so don't beat me up if it still has bugs in it :hand: I'm just off to insert another line of PHP code ... if( $team == "TBST" ) $credits = $credits * 1.2; //no-one will notice :D
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#32 Re: TSBT challenge 04/3-11/3 Let's March on with TN-Grid

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[mention]UBT - Woodles[/mention] Thanks to the hard work from [mention]davidBAM[/mention] you might notice something of interest to you and your team on the first post in this topic https://tsbt.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=149&t=10999

I have also made it available in the public General forum. Topic is here https://tsbt.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php? ... 530#p68530 where any UBT members can see it without making an account on the forum. Of course they are always welcome to make an account and post if they wish.
You can also link to it on your forum if a bit of old fashioned rivalry gets a few more involved. p2

The stats update every 15 mins and will be reset just prior to kick off. Enjoy .
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#33 Re: TSBT challenge 04/3-11/3 Let's March on with TN-Grid

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I will also sync the start times for midnight tonight as it looks daft just at the moment
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#34 Re: TSBT challenge 04/3-11/3 Let's March on with TN-Grid

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I'm assuming the tables are laid out in a geographical order rather than the expected finishing order? :lol:
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#35 Re: TSBT challenge 04/3-11/3 Let's March on with TN-Grid

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UBT - Woodles wrote: Wed Feb 27, 2019 1:55 pm I'm assuming the tables are laid out in a geographical order rather than the expected finishing order? :lol:
In both orders we are on top :D :dance:
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UBT - Woodles wrote: Wed Feb 27, 2019 1:55 pm I'm assuming the tables are laid out in a geographical order rather than the expected finishing order? :lol:
Spent too many years incarcerated in a cartographer's box in the Moray Firth (and I'm not even from Shetland)
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#37 Re: TSBT challenge 04/3-11/3 Let's March on with TN-Grid

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davidBAM wrote: Wed Feb 27, 2019 2:02 pm
UBT - Woodles wrote: Wed Feb 27, 2019 1:55 pm I'm assuming the tables are laid out in a geographical order rather than the expected finishing order? :lol:
Spent too many years incarcerated in a cartographer's box in the Moray Firth (and I'm not even from Shetland)
Back in your box you :smilebox: ....... couldn't resist, I'll get my coat now .. :walk:
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How long have you been waiting to use that smiley? :D :D
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#39 Re: TSBT challenge 04/3-11/3 Let's March on with TN-Grid

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davidBAM wrote: Wed Feb 27, 2019 2:09 pm How long have you been waiting to use that smiley? :D :D
Years .... :oops:
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#40 Re: TSBT challenge 04/3-11/3 Let's March on with TN-Grid

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UBT - Woodles wrote: Wed Feb 27, 2019 1:55 pm I'm assuming the tables are laid out in a geographical order rather than the expected finishing order? :lol:
Correct, it geographically ordered. If it was expected finish UBT would be further down the list :lol: Oh wait a minute, there is no further down the list :o
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Yeah - I'm sorry that the column width for Challenge Points has to be the same on both tables :shifty: :shifty:
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#42 Re: TSBT challenge 04/3-11/3 Let's March on with TN-Grid

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Alez wrote: Wed Feb 27, 2019 1:57 pmIn both orders we are on top :D :dance:
Bryan wrote: Wed Feb 27, 2019 2:11 pmCorrect, it geographically ordered. If it was expected finish UBT would be further down the list :lol: Oh wait a minute, there is no further down the list :o
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#43 Re: TSBT challenge 04/3-11/3 Let's March on with TN-Grid

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davidBAM wrote: Wed Feb 27, 2019 2:43 pm Yeah - I'm sorry that the column width for Challenge Points has to be the same on both tables :shifty: :shifty:
That's alright, you can increase your table width to match ours once the challenge starts :P
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#44 Re: TSBT challenge 04/3-11/3 Let's March on with TN-Grid

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UBT - Woodles wrote: Wed Feb 27, 2019 2:46 pm
davidBAM wrote: Wed Feb 27, 2019 2:43 pm Yeah - I'm sorry that the column width for Challenge Points has to be the same on both tables :shifty: :shifty:
That's alright, you can increase your table width to match ours once the challenge starts :P
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#45 Re: TSBT challenge 04/3-11/3 Let's March on with TN-Grid

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Well what's a challenge without some ill-founded optimism :lol:
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#46 Re: TSBT challenge 04/3-11/3 Let's March on with TN-Grid

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I hope I am not late for the challenge. Should I start bunkering now?

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#47 Re: TSBT challenge 04/3-11/3 Let's March on with TN-Grid

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You need the invitation code: science@tn (from home page)

Yes, you can bunker now
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#48 Re: TSBT challenge 04/3-11/3 Let's March on with TN-Grid

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I better clean my visor next time :-D
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#49 Re: TSBT challenge 04/3-11/3 Let's March on with TN-Grid

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I only know because I stumbled onto it recently myself :lol: :lol:
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#50 Re: TSBT challenge 04/3-11/3 Let's March on with TN-Grid

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Is there any optimized app for this project?
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