06/09-13/09 Citizen Science Grid Stress Test for DC-Vault

Post by **scole of TSBT** » Fri Aug 07, 2015 8:20 pm

http://boincstats.com/en/stats/challenge/team/chat/705

Name Citizen Science Grid Server Stress Test for DC-Vault possible inclusion - Phase 2
Status Upcoming
Project Citizen Science Grid
Issued by [H]ard|OCP
Start time 2015-09-06 00:00 UTC
End time 2015-09-13 00:00 UTC
Late entrants allowed? Yes
Number of teams participating Â» 11
Number of users participating 0

Post by **Megacruncher** » Tue Sep 01, 2015 11:42 pm

So,
Are we going to go hell for leather for this one or concentrate on other priorities? :)

Post by **scole of TSBT** » Wed Sep 02, 2015 1:16 am

I'm not starting my bunker yet, but within 24 hours of the comp I'll start on CSG and give all. In the mean time Silver, Janos, Alez and I are trying see if we can't gain a few points in the Formula BOINC comp on the distributed data mining and wanless2 projects. We need points in all three of these projects, so take your pick.

FYI...
wanless2 only runs on linux. If you're running linux, consider trying it.
distributed data mining requires java to be installed. See the requirements here...http://www.distributeddatamining.org/Di ... ataMining/

Silver · Post by **Silver** » Wed Sep 02, 2015 9:27 am

I'm not bunkering but I'll crunch it when we get there, although I might move another couple of droids onto it shortly.

Post by **scole of TSBT** » Wed Sep 02, 2015 11:06 am

Great. No SubsetSum work. Anyone see the trend with this project?

Post by **Dirk Broer** » Wed Sep 02, 2015 1:05 pm

scole250 wrote:Great. No SubsetSum work. Anyone see the trend with this project?

---------------------------------------------Unsent-----being processed-------running time Avg (min - max)---Users last 24h
SubsetSum@Home Sum Calculator----- 431792---------2859-----------------------2.79 (0.93 - 22.77)--------------------451

Post by **scole of TSBT** » Wed Sep 02, 2015 2:01 pm

Patience is not one of my virtues. Glad they now have work.

FWIW...a little bunker advice. SubsetSum WUs have fairly consistent completion times which makes it easier to calculate the number of WUs you need to bunker, but they don't pay as well as the DNA WUs. The DNA WU completion times are all over the place and it's difficult to calculate the number of WUs needed for a bunker. Have to leave it up to the BOINC scheduler to guess it's best.

The challenge doesn't start for another 3.5 days. CSG only gives you 4 days to return the WUs else they'll just error out. I don't trust the the BOINC scheduler to download just enough for 4 days, so I'm going to give a little more time before I bunker on my androids and a couple other systems.

Again, if you plan to bunker, keep your WU cache as low as possible before you bunker else you could end up with WUs on your system with a deadline before the challenge starts. Only an issue now if you had your minimum work buffer set something like 2 days, then you probably still have WUs on your system that have a deadline before 06/09 00:00 UTC. If you load a bunker now, all those with a deadline before 06/09 00:00 UTC will error out before you can upload them.

Alez · Post by **Alez** » Wed Sep 02, 2015 3:06 pm

My nix servers should start on wanless in a few hours once they clear the last of the NFS units. Going to run this for a few days then switch before the CSG challenge if we are going for it. Can't bunker and do FB so will be my usual standing start and chasing it from there

Away to get windoze machines over to dDM for a few days to.

Post by **scole of TSBT** » Wed Sep 02, 2015 4:02 pm

I'm hanging with you on wanless, but have a couple systems I'm going save a little CSG on. BTW..having trouble downing additional WUs. Log says...
Citizen Science Grid | You used the wrong URL for this project. When convenient, remove this project, then add http://csgrid.org/csg/

Just making others aware in case they have trouble loading up.

Post by **scole of TSBT** » Wed Sep 02, 2015 7:49 pm

Looks like CSG is only allowing 1 WU per core on DNA. My androids get about 3 SubsetSum WUs per core. Still not enough to bunker. So unless you want to mess with faking out the project by changing the number of ncpus in your cc_config.xml, then no bunkering really.

Post by **scole of TSBT** » Fri Sep 04, 2015 4:13 pm

Just a heads up that some the DNA WUs use almost 900MB of memory.

Silver · Post by **Silver** » Fri Sep 04, 2015 6:21 pm

Cheers Scole, good info for those that need to buy more ram

Post by **scole of TSBT** » Sat Sep 05, 2015 10:39 pm

A little over 2 hours to go. Let's wind 'em up!

Alez · Post by **Alez** » Sun Sep 06, 2015 1:47 am

pulled the pin .... now how much are you meant to count to ?

Post by **scole of TSBT** » Sun Sep 06, 2015 2:04 am

Alez wrote:pulled the pin .... now how much are you meant to count to ?

Three sir!

Post by **scole of TSBT** » Sun Sep 06, 2015 11:08 pm

Almost a day in and we're steady in 2nd. LAF is pacing us though. BTW, I goofed stating DNA paid better than SubsetSum.

It did before they adjusted the credits in the middle of the first challenge, but now I think SubsetSum may pay slightly better.

Post by **Megacruncher** » Mon Sep 07, 2015 12:45 am

Our amphibian rivals have 42 members on it whereas we have just 6!

Despite this most unsporting outnumbering we seem to be holding our lead over them. :)
Giving this one hell for laldy!

Post by **Dirk Broer** » Mon Sep 07, 2015 12:53 am

Megacruncher wrote:Our amphibian rivals have 42 members on it whereas we have just 6!
Despite this most unsporting outnumbering we seem to be holding our lead over them. :)
Giving this one hell for laldy!

Froggies all over the place

Alez · Post by **Alez** » Mon Sep 07, 2015 12:58 am

We are a raft floating on a sea of amphibians, but as before we will prevail .... if not there's always the old school boy trick with a straw that distresses them somewhat

Onwards and upwards and afterwards there may be cheese and wine .... but no surrender

Alez · Post by **Alez** » Mon Sep 07, 2015 1:13 am

It should also be pointed out that we are second to SUSA and the mighty mumps, which is no mean feat though cineon_lut isn't exactly too shoddy either

Alez · Post by **Alez** » Mon Sep 07, 2015 1:26 am

Megacruncher wrote:Our amphibian rivals have 42 members on it whereas we have just 6!
Despite this most unsporting outnumbering we seem to be holding our lead over them. :)
Giving this one hell for laldy!

I'm going for it as well

If your holding back scole then better get on it now as I'm coming after you like a pirate deprived of rhum and gold ... lets see if I can eat into that bunker of yours

Post by **scole of TSBT** » Mon Sep 07, 2015 2:11 am

Alez wrote:If your holding back scole then better get on it now as I'm coming after you like a pirate deprived of rhum and gold ... lets see if I can eat into that bunker of yours

That's the fighting spirit! Let's plow the road!

Alez · Post by **Alez** » Mon Sep 07, 2015 3:12 am

Best get an edge on that blade, I do believe I'm slowly catching you 8) and we're holding off LAF ... just.

Janos (retired) · Post by **Janos (retired)** » Mon Sep 07, 2015 6:57 am

Better late than never, right?

Silver · Post by **Silver** » Mon Sep 07, 2015 9:30 am

Janos wrote:Better late than never, right?

That's pretty much my motto, so yeah

Post by **scole of TSBT** » Mon Sep 07, 2015 12:07 pm

Alez wrote:Best get an edge on that blade, I do believe I'm slowly catching you 8) and we're holding off LAF ... just.

It's about time you made an descent effort to finish a comp ahead of me.

Alez · Post by **Alez** » Mon Sep 07, 2015 12:16 pm

slowly, slowly, catchy monkey

where is that dasterdly pirate behind you now ????

We're pulling away from LAF now, well done and keep it up everyone.

Alez · Post by **Alez** » Mon Sep 07, 2015 12:48 pm

36 hours into the challenge and now that the initial dust has settled here is how we stand individually.

scole of TSBT 3rd
alez [ TSBT's Pirate ] 4th
Paul of TSBT 19th
Megacruncher TSBT 22nd
Skywalker TSBT 23rd
phildemeur 81st
jeremyroebuck 88th

Post by **utopia-i** » Mon Sep 07, 2015 2:04 pm

Am I too late to enter, no experience with this project/s at all but happy to help a little ...

is it listed on http://www.ubtstats.co.uk/tsbt/UBT.php? ... oject=comb

Post by **scole of TSBT** » Mon Sep 07, 2015 2:45 pm

utopia-i wrote:is it listed on http://www.ubtstats.co.uk/tsbt/UBT.php? ... oject=comb

Unfortunately no. The fellow who developed those stats has faded out of BOINC and doesn't have much interest in wanting to maintain it.

Alez · Post by **Alez** » Mon Sep 07, 2015 4:55 pm

It is listed on freeDC and BamStats though. Quite a few of the projects are not listed on the UBT site, but freeDC and Bam are always up to date, just not hourly updates unfortunately.
Not having experiance of coding I have no idea how hard it would be to import the stats listing from the various projects and have our own hourly updating stats. I just use the sites of people who are smarter than me

Join in, the more the merrier, the better the banter and the more fun for the team, which is the whole point of these comps ..... that and catching scole

Maybe we should insist that scole only achieves victory if he outbunkers and out crunches the rest of us combined

Post by **utopia-i** » Mon Sep 07, 2015 5:03 pm

That is a shame, I like the hourly updates apart from WCG which feed was broke

We developed the 'millionaire' concept but Bitcoin seems to have broken that Utopian ideal ..

Not sure how quickly BOINCStats will pick me up but I'm crunching away, I see its not that clearcut to get points as the quorum is 2 ... Anyhow, Im in .. :bounce:

Janos (retired) · Post by **Janos (retired)** » Mon Sep 07, 2015 7:09 pm

My credits should start showing up soon. So far I have about 9k incoming :)

Post by **utopia-i** » Mon Sep 07, 2015 7:24 pm

9k already geez, can I have some of what your on please 8)

Post by **scole of TSBT** » Mon Sep 07, 2015 8:45 pm

Alez wrote:Maybe we should insist that scole only achieves victory if he outbunkers and out crunches the rest of us combined

Does that mean you are actually going to bunker on an upcoming challenge?

Alez · Post by **Alez** » Mon Sep 07, 2015 10:56 pm

scole250 wrote:
Alez wrote:Maybe we should insist that scole only achieves victory if he outbunkers and out crunches the rest of us combined
Does that mean you are actually going to bunker on an upcoming challenge?

Does that mean I have to show dedication ?

My usual truthful excuse is that I am not home but at work, hopefully that will continue .....

I know in the USA vehicle mirrors state that objects in the rear view mirror may appear closer than they are ...

just mentioning that as a random thought

Post by **scole of TSBT** » Mon Sep 07, 2015 11:02 pm

It's sure taking you long enough. If I didn't know better, I'd say you're a little nervous about running out in front

Alez · Post by **Alez** » Mon Sep 07, 2015 11:08 pm

Patience my young padwan, we have a full 5 more days to dance :bootyshake:

Alez · Post by **Alez** » Mon Sep 07, 2015 11:11 pm

Janos wrote:My credits should start showing up soon. So far I have about 9k incoming :)

utopia-i wrote:9k already geez, can I have some of what your on please 8)

Can you two please remember to step on a few amphibians on your way up the board

Silver · Post by **Silver** » Mon Sep 07, 2015 11:20 pm

I'm hoping that I get some sort of prize for managing to have 1 credit after the first hour

Post by **scole of TSBT** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 12:29 am

Silver wrote:I'm hoping that I get some sort of prize for managing to have 1 credit after the first hour

Well you, Megacruncher and Skywalker are all over Coleslaw (not related

) and running the top 25

Alez · Post by **Alez** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 2:46 am

I think it's time for a bumber sticker post .... anyone got some good ones ?

Post by **scole of TSBT** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 1:18 pm

...

How about "World's least read bumper sticker"

I am mad about the DNA badge though. Thought I was going to get a gold badge at 500k. Nope, they still have the gold badge target set based on the old credit plan which is 1 million. Heck with it. Going for 1 million on SubsetSum for the amethyst badge.

Post by **utopia-i** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 2:16 pm

That would look kool 8)

I'm going for any colour I can !

In a past CPID I have SubsetSum@Home 470,727.89
but those split CPID are a pin in the a** ...

I'm still down as a new user - just how long does BOINCStats take to remember me, I've been at this since Registered Member Since: 24/08/07

Post by **scole of TSBT** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 3:11 pm

utopia-i wrote:That would look kool 8)

I'm going for any colour I can !

In a past CPID I have SubsetSum@Home 470,727.89
but those split CPID are a pin in the a** ...

I'm still down as a new user - just how long does BOINCStats take to remember me, I've been at this since Registered Member Since: 24/08/07

There's only one utopia-i listed at CSG and it shows you joined on Sept 7, 2015, which is what matters to BOINCstats and Free-DC. Your username is now showing up in the challenge stats. Team name should update soon. BTW, you do have your SubsetSum bronze badge. Might take Free-DC a day to pick it up. CSG doesn't seem to provide updated info in their stats exports as often as other projects.

Alez · Post by **Alez** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 3:51 pm

Check that TSBT is selected as your team on CSG, actually forget that I checked and you are listed as a member. BamStats does have you in the challenge, you are currently # 28 and your team has now updated to TSBT, so all's well

Did you follow this post on CSG to link your old and new account ? When the individual projects all came under CSG, the accounts were not carried over.

Post by **utopia-i** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 8:11 pm

I did try the link to link my previous efforts but page loads blank , no error just a white empty page

Im obviously doomed at getting things sorted despite all your efforts, bunkering is a black art, numerous CPIDs remains a mystery, signatures the French dont like Scots, now merging accounts, need I go on !

Not usually this hard work but I have a welcome new focus, badge hunting .. :bounce:

Back to the thread topic, this TEAM is doing just F A B ...

Alez · Post by **Alez** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:04 pm

utopia-i wrote:Back to the thread topic, this TEAM is doing just F A B ...

Not bad at all for a small team afloat on a sea of amphibians

LAF well in the background now.

Post by **scole of TSBT** » Wed Sep 09, 2015 12:31 am

Ahem...Alez, when you're leading the pack you are expected to do more than just pick the flies out of your teeth. You're also obligated to provide the daily updates.

Post by **Megacruncher** » Wed Sep 09, 2015 12:32 am

Yup, the welcome arrival of FlyingfocRS :wav: makes it 10 TSBT members battling 46 LAF despite which our lead is now commanding if not yet unassailable!