Single board time / credit comparisons

Alez · Post by **Alez** » Fri Nov 08, 2013 10:18 pm

Single board comparisons listed below. All data is non official

ORDROID XU

Project --------- Time/Unit/Hr---- - Credit ----------- Credit/Hr
Skynet Pogs---------8.5-------------230----------------27
Asteroids------------13--------------480----------------37-----( linux )
Asteroids------------15.2------------480----------------31.6---( Anderoid )

ORDROID U2

Project --------- Time/Unit/Hr---- - Credit ----------- Credit/Hr
Asteroids------------14.5-----------240---------------16.5
Asteroids------------22.9-----------480----------------21---( Android )
Einstein--------------9.3-------------63----------------6.7
Enigma-------------- 1.5-------------60----------------40
Milkyway-------------4.7------------106----------------22.5
Skynet Pogs---------5.3-------------170----------------32.1 ( silver )
Skynet Pogs---------5.4-------------177----------------32.7 ( Janos )
SETI@Home Beta-----18.75----------104----------------5.5

ORDROID U3

Project --------- Time/Unit/Hr---- - Credit ----------- Credit/Hr
Asteroids------------35.88-----------480----------------14.5 (Only ran 2 units)
Enigma-------------- 1.68-------------52----------------31.3
GPUGrid--------------1.05-------------10.84-------------10.3 ( CPU only units )
Milkyway-------------6.52------------160----------------24.6
Skynet Pogs---------5.77-------------164.8-------------28.6
PrimeGrid ----------3.99-------------120----------------30

DroidBOX V9 (MK908) Quad Core RK3188 1.8Ghz (1.6Ghz) Android 4.2 / nativeBoinc

project-----------time/unit/hrs-----Credit-------------credit/hr
Asteroids--------------43------------480----------------11.2
Albert-----------------14------------62.5--------------- 0.46
Enigma----------------1.3------------30-----------------23
GPUGrid----------------1.19----------27-----------------22.7 (Android only units )
Milkyway--------------8.33----------106-----------------12.7
Simap-----------------2.25-----------16-----------------7.11
SkynetPOGS ----------9.5-----------175-----------------18.4
WCG fight aids---------11------------45-------------------4.1
Yafu------------------0.036----------0.4-----------------11.1
YoYo ogr cruncher----17.9-----------88------------------4.9

Raspberry Pi

project-----------time/unit/hrs-----Credit-------------credit/hr
SkynetPOGS----------47.3----------186----------------3.9

Parallella - Arm cores only

project-----------time/unit/hrs-----Credit-------------credit/hr
Enigma---------------4.47-----------30----------------6.71 ( Linux )

Alez · Post by **Alez** » Fri Nov 08, 2013 10:20 pm

Seems the Ordroid U2 is approx twice as fast as the RK3188.

Any other data let me know and will add to the list.

Janos (retired) · Post by **Janos (retired)** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 7:53 pm

My XU times on Pogs:
http://pogs.theskynet.org/pogs/results.php?hostid=19686

My U2 times on Pogs:
http://pogs.theskynet.org/pogs/results.php?hostid=19529

Alez · Post by **Alez** » Wed Nov 13, 2013 12:30 am

Cheers for that Janos, results posted up.
Anyone running anything different or different projects ? Anyone tried it on a phone or tablet and like to share ?
Seems the U2 is the way to go although the droidbox has everything built in. Considering a wee farm on a lan switch. Need to figure how to remote them using Linux first though.

Silver · Post by **Silver** » Wed Nov 13, 2013 9:05 pm

Samsung Note II
ARMv7 Processor rev 0 (v7l) @1600MHz
(4 processors)
Native Boinc

Project --------- Time/Unit/Hr---- - Credit ----------- Credit/Hr--------No of units run
Asteroids--------------20.58-----------240-----------------11.6----------------1
Skynet Pogs---------0.85---------------17------------------20------------------1

Have to say It's really hard work on a phone, only seems to crunch when screen is on therefore it can take forever to finish a unit. Also drains the battery faster.
Not sure I'm going to run much more on it.

Silver · Post by **Silver** » Wed Nov 13, 2013 9:10 pm

Alez wrote: Seems the U2 is the way to go although the droidbox has everything built in. Considering a wee farm on a lan switch. Need to figure how to remote them using Linux first though.

Did Janos not post something about remoting into his U2 or Pi somewhere?

The U2 farm on a switch sounds like the kind of direction I might go too; especially since Parallella seems to have stalled somewhat.
Keep us updated with any progress you make :)

Janos (retired) · Post by **Janos (retired)** » Sat Nov 30, 2013 1:16 am

Silver wrote:
Alez wrote: Seems the U2 is the way to go although the droidbox has everything built in. Considering a wee farm on a lan switch. Need to figure how to remote them using Linux first though.
Did Janos not post something about remoting into his U2 or Pi somewhere?

The U2 farm on a switch sounds like the kind of direction I might go too; especially since Parallella seems to have stalled somewhat.
Keep us updated with any progress you make :)

I have mine all set up and working well. Just ask if you want tips.

Janos (retired) · Post by **Janos (retired)** » Sat Nov 30, 2013 1:22 am

It would appear that Enigma credits have gone up.

XU Android: http://www.enigmaathome.net/results.php ... 81&state=4
XU Ubuntu: http://www.enigmaathome.net/results.php ... 29&state=4
U2 Android: http://www.enigmaathome.net/results.php ... 43&state=4

Janos (retired) · Post by **Janos (retired)** » Fri Dec 13, 2013 5:06 am

Some stats from Asteroids@Home:

XU Linux: http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/result ... stid=64735
XU Android: http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/result ... stid=64746
U2 Android: http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/result ... stid=64747
U2 Android: http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/result ... stid=64749

Alez · Post by **Alez** » Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:52 pm

data added to the list cheers
Interestingly seems the XU is better at Asteroids than the U2, but opposite way round on POGS.
Linux is faster than Android, again would have though Android was optimised Linux for Arm chips and would have had a slight edge.

Alez · Post by **Alez** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 1:25 am

Results on Enigma for the Droidbox. http://www.enigmaathome.net/results.php ... e=4&appid=
1.3 hrs / 30 credits averaged.

Silver · Post by **Silver** » Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:36 pm

Some updates for the Odroid U3

Project --------- Time/Unit/Hr---- - Credit ----------- Credit/Hr
Asteroids------------35.88-----------480----------------14.5 (Only ran 2 units)
Enigma-------------- 1.68-------------52----------------31.3
Milkyway-------------6.52------------160----------------24.6
Skynet Pogs---------5.77-------------164.8-------------28.6
PrimeGrid ----------3.99-------------120----------------30

Apart from Asteroids the rest are all averaged over 6 units.

Looks like the credit generated is slightly lower than the U2 but some of the run times and credits are different?

Alez · Post by **Alez** » Wed Feb 05, 2014 12:08 am

Thanks for that, have added your data to the main post.

Alez · Post by **Alez** » Mon Feb 24, 2014 9:58 pm

Simap now have an Android app.

Alez · Post by **Alez** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 12:10 pm

Simap apps run approx 2hrs 15 mins on my droids for approx 16 credits. Approx 7.11 credits/hr. Had a few errors but they were all timed out units when I got sent a bunch with a 6 hour deadline ? Normal deadline seems to be 6 days or so. Data added to our list.

Alez · Post by **Alez** » Wed Mar 05, 2014 10:00 pm

GPUGrid credit posted up. Seems to be the same as Enigma for my droids making it the joint best paying project on Android. Waiting to get / complete some Collatz units

Janos (retired) · Post by **Janos (retired)** » Wed Mar 05, 2014 10:08 pm

Very interesting. I've attached GPUGrid to all my ODROID's - I will report back in due course.

Janos (retired) · Post by **Janos (retired)** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 10:35 am

Parallella Arm cores only on Enigma:
http://www.enigmaathome.net/results.php ... 57&state=4

Janos (retired) · Post by **Janos (retired)** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 10:38 am

Janos wrote:Very interesting. I've attached GPUGrid to all my ODROID's - I will report back in due course.

No work yet on GPUGrid

Silver · Post by **Silver** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 11:15 am

Janos wrote:
Janos wrote:Very interesting. I've attached GPUGrid to all my ODROID's - I will report back in due course.
No work yet on GPUGrid

I tried to get work the other day and nothing.
Also tried op project - nothing.
prime grid have disabled Android because of a problem.
I don't want to run Collatz as that's not going to help my credit imbalance any

Alez · Post by **Alez** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 11:39 am

I haven't had any since 7/3 but the server status does state that there are 900+ tasks ready to send. The apps are listed as cpu only units. Guess check your gpugrid preferences are set to allow cpu tasks.

Alez · Post by **Alez** » Sat Mar 15, 2014 8:02 pm

Parallella Arm cores only added to the list. Let me know of anymore projects added for U3 etc.

Alez · Post by **Alez** » Sat Apr 12, 2014 12:38 am

GPUGrid on U3 giving @ 10 credits / hr for the CPU only tasks. Guess credit new has struck there to.

Post by **scole of TSBT** » Thu Jan 22, 2015 8:36 pm

Here's a comparison of my 6 Android systems.

Description of rig_____________________Cost of rig w/accessories__Avg credit per hour per core on POGS

Odroid U3 Quad Core Cortex-A9 1.7GHz_______$106______________16.12
R42 Quad Core RK3188 Cortex-A9 1.6GHz______$60_______________17.86
R42 Quad Core RK3188 Cortex-A9 1.6GHz______$60_______________17.93
R42 Quad Core RK3188 Cortex-A9 1.6GHz______$60_______________17.93
R42 Quad Core RK3188 Cortex-A9 1.6GHz______$60_______________19.96
M8 Quad Core S802 Cortex A9 2.0GHz_________$72_______________31.33

All rigs were running 4 tasks at a time.

The Odroid was expensive because of the Android eMMC, power supply and heat sink w/fan but it performs the worst.

The R42s are all Android TV boxes which came with power supply, HDMI cable, RCA cables and already loaded with Android. I did perform a fan mod on all of them and one had to have a heat sink added. One performs slightly better than the others. Not sure why.

The M8 is also an Android TV box and required the same fan mod for cooling.

If I experiment with any others, I'll probably get an Android TV box with a RK3288 quad-core Cortex-A17 1.8 Ghz chip. They're costing around $90 (US) currently.

Silver · Post by **Silver** » Thu Jan 22, 2015 9:31 pm

Interesting numbers there Scole, thanks for the update.

Post by **scole of TSBT** » Mon Mar 02, 2015 1:18 pm

Average credit per hour, per core, on WCG Outstmart Ebola Together WUs...

Odroid U2 1.7Ghz quad core_________ 3.58
Android TV RK3188 1.6Ghz quad core__3.47
Android TV S802 2.0Ghz quad core____4.56
Android TV RK3288 1.8Ghz quad core__7.92

Alez · Post by **Alez** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 12:54 am

The RK3188 that performs the best is one of the good ones from the center of the platlet and will overclock to 1.8GHz as that was what they were originally sold as. The 1.6GHz is for one core only. If you look at them with cpuz you will see that they downclock as each core comes on line and I'll bet the best one stays one downclock above the others.
6 of my droids are RK3188's and they are more cost effective than my 4 ordroid u2's but the U's are far, far less prone to locking up or loosing the network connection.

Post by **scole of TSBT** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 2:29 am

I think this has been covered, but I'll ask anyway. Is there a ROM you can flash the RK3188 with that will prevent it from downclocking?

Alez · Post by **Alez** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 1:29 pm

No. Downclocking is hardwired into the very nature of the chips due to temp and voltage limitations.
You could search for a finless bob kernel to overclock ( which I did on all my RK3188's ) but it will not stop the downclock, though you might be able to keep them 1 clock higher. The main reason I did it was to make the units more efficient as it removed all the bloatware normally installed.

The discussion you refer to is here http://www.dunadd.co.uk/seti/forum/view ... 136&t=2020

Post by **scole of TSBT** » Tue Apr 14, 2015 4:04 am

Not a detailed credit comparison, but these quad core android boxes are crunching 27K enigma/day . 9 systems, each with 4 cores drawing maybe 10 watts each, 90 watts total. Just an example of low power crunching...
1x Odroid U3 1.7Ghz quad core android
4x RK3188 1.6Ghz quad core androids
1x S802 2.0Ghz quad core android
3x RK3288 1.8Ghz quad core android

Post by **scole of TSBT** » Sun Sep 06, 2015 8:42 pm

Here are stats for the RK3288, S802, RK3188 and U3 on CSG SubsetSum...

RK3288 1.8Ghz quad core
Project -------------- Time/Unit/Hr------ Credit ----------- Credit/Hr
CSG Subset Sum--------2.05----------------91-------------------44.5

S802 2.0Ghz quad core (M8 model)
Project -------------- Time/Unit/Hr------ Credit ----------- Credit/Hr
CSG Subset Sum--------2.43----------------91-------------------37.5

RK3188 1.6Ghz quad core (CS918 model)
Project -------------- Time/Unit/Hr------ Credit ----------- Credit/Hr
CSG Subset Sum--------3.96----------------91-------------------22.98

U3 1.7Ghz quad core
Project -------------- Time/Unit/Hr------ Credit ----------- Credit/Hr
CSG Subset Sum--------4.9-----------------91-------------------18.57

I'll add other project stats after I run some other projects. CSG stats all I have right now.

Alez · Post by **Alez** » Mon Sep 07, 2015 1:04 am

Thanks scole, I'll update the first post accordingly.

Post by **Dirk Broer** » Sun Oct 04, 2015 11:40 am

Raspberry Pi2, quad-core Cortex-A7@1000MHz, with augmented library support:

Project	Time/Unit/Hr	Credit	Credit/Core/Hr
Collatz	7.0	77	11
Enigma	5.0	50	10
FIND	0.1	1	10

Considering it's a quad, you can multiply the Credit/Core/Hr with 4 to get the total Credit/Hr

The Scottish Boinc Team

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