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#11 Re: not going well (okay now though)

Post by davidBAM » Mon Jul 08, 2019 2:32 pm

Bryan wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 7:22 am
There is a penalty to running a VM vs running native
I felt sure there would be & I guess it applies equally - maybe moreso? - to folks running Linux in a VM on a Windows host (which is probably more common). Virtualisation has its uses but I prefer bare-metal if at all practical
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#12 Re: not going well (okay now though)

Post by scole of TSBT » Mon Jul 08, 2019 2:59 pm

Dual boot is the way to go. All but one of my rigs are that way and that's only because it's out general purpose system, server, etc.
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#13 Re: not going well (okay now though)

Post by Bryan » Mon Jul 08, 2019 3:03 pm

To be honest, I haven't run a VM (except where we scammed the Thor challenge) in years. Since discovering BOINC instances and having dual boot machines I haven't had a reason.

Did you know that dual boot works really well :lol:
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#14 Re: not going well (okay now though)

Post by davidBAM » Mon Jul 08, 2019 3:06 pm

Might need to do that on a couple of machines where I can get a screen / kbd / mouse on them fairly easily. Reasons to run Windows being
  • Gerasim for challenges - any other Windows-only projects?
  • NFS pays better
  • AMD GPU cards run better e.g. on Einstein and Milkyway
Any others please?
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#15 Re: not going well (okay now though)

Post by scole of TSBT » Mon Jul 08, 2019 3:13 pm

Sometimes a new opti app may run faster under Win64,
You can run both AMD and Nvidia GPUs at the same time under windows (I think that's a problem under linux)
I'm sure there are other apps that better under Windows.

I run linux most of the time but it's nice to have Win64 when you need it.
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#16 Re: not going well (okay now though)

Post by Bryan » Mon Jul 08, 2019 3:31 pm

Like Steve, I normally run Linux but there are some projects that are a little quicker under Windows ... most of them Linux is better. There was one of the biggies that until they released new apps about 4 months ago had 30% better payout for Windows. After the new app the differential dropped to 5%. Unfortunately I don't remember which one it is but I challenged Mumps and won. He said he refused to put more than 1/2 his machines on whatever project it is.

I haven't benchmarked it in a number of years, but Yoyo used to pay better on Windows. Muon (dead now) and ECM, which were the 2 highest paying apps, paid 18% better on Windows.

I've never tried Wine but that might be a better alternative than a VM.

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#17 Re: not going well (okay now though)

Post by davidBAM » Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:31 pm

Is this one of the projects with a toy server?

I've got completed WU which refuse to upload - the expire in 19hrs. I've tried everything I know in boincmgr

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#18 Re: not going well (okay now though)

Post by scole of TSBT » Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:50 pm

which project?

EDIT: I see this is under the Gerasim folder...It's usually a stable server but it appears to be down right now. Bryan, Mumps and the other server farms must be loading up.

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#19 Re: not going well (okay now though)

Post by davidBAM » Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:56 pm

Yeah - I should have sussed that it would be Bryan's fault.

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#20 Re: not going well (okay now though)

Post by Bryan » Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:20 pm

Twasn't me! I was going to put a machine on it this morning but I can't reach it either.

You don't know what a bad day is, I had to do a new Win7 install last night ... pain to the max! Hours of watching hundreds of updates download and install.

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